3200 Starter Motor

rwr said:
Mike, I note that, on mine, you have relocated the knock sensors to the top of the inlet manifold. Ugly, but effective, presumably.
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I would suggest a little caution moving the knock sensors unless you really just want to disable them. The precise noise they are designed to pick up will only be valid in the designed location. They prevent pinking and if you don't prevent this you can cause damage to the engine.
 
davy83 said:
I would suggest a little caution moving the knock sensors unless you really just want to disable them. The precise noise they are designed to pick up will only be valid in the designed location. They prevent pinking and if you don't prevent this you can cause damage to the engine.
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Yeah, I'm no expert and have left it to the expert. It won't start now, since replacing the starter motor, anyway, so maybe I'll relocate them and see how it goes. Thanks.
 
rwr said:
Yeah, I'm no expert and have left it to the expert. It won't start now, since replacing the starter motor, anyway, so maybe I'll relocate them and see how it goes. Thanks.
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While I still would urge extreme caution moving the knock sensors (i.e. don't do it!!) I am pretty sure if they are not working the car will run. If the knock sensors are faulty you will get a knock sensor error and the ECU will retard the ignition and mixture to a "safe level" and possibly put the car into limp home mode (can't remember?) but it will start and run. Similarly if you move them, it will run, but what will happen if you move them is that the noise its picking up will not be right, so it will either detect pinking all the time and your ignition timing and mixture will be toned down and the car will be slower, or it will not detect pinking at all and the car will be fast but destroy the combustion chambers over a period of time requiring a new engine I suspect (hence going to the bother of designing the car with an elaborate system to prevent this).
 
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Great topic.
I found that my starter is broken.
Anyone here who has one for sale? Either a D6RA64 or the Bosch equivalent... Either new or revised.
 
So I found one and had it delivered yesterday but I think it is the wrong part. The casting of the original D6RA64 does not seem to fit at all…

Also when I look it up on Google images this is not what the Bosch starter should look like..

Can anyone confirm?

(Photo left is Bosch, right is original Valeo)
 

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i used this part Bosch 0986016530-93N. I had to remove the 3 long bolts and swap the end castings to get it to fit but it did. I will have a look in my store room and see if i have any parts that would help explain this but it seemed obvious to me at the time. It does need parts swapped to make it work though and more or less the whole end of the starter.
 
Great write up there, I’m sure I will need to reference to this in the future when mine goes bang
 
Yep remember doing mine...If my memory serves me right the new starter was for a Fiat Ducato!
 

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Just been looking at this thread, my knock sensors are throwing a full code so have ordered a couple. Unfortunately car would not start thus off to Rose's Garage in Sandwich ( great guys) due to a crank sensor failure. We think this was caused by a small weep from a hose thus will be upgrading to a nice set of matt black silicones. I am struggling to find a crank sensor in stock, is there a Bosch equivalent to the Magneti Marelli Part?
 

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CliveT said:
Just been looking at this thread, my knock sensors are throwing a full code so have ordered a couple. Unfortunately car would not start thus off to Rose's Garage in Sandwich ( great guys) due to a crank sensor failure. We think this was caused by a small weep from a hose thus will be upgrading to a nice set of matt black silicones. I am struggling to find a crank sensor in stock, is there a Bosch equivalent to the Magneti Marelli Part?
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Wow epic color on your 3200. If you’ve tried Eurospares, Scuderiaparts and Maranello I cannot help you.

So finally I received the right ‘Bosch’ starter motor which turned out to be a reconditioned Valeo starter anyway.. But okay with that.. been waiting for too long already. Did the installment today and got it running! Also replaced the knock sensors, 32mm silicon hoses on the water manifold, air filters, spark plugs and both belts. Mostly thanks to great topics such as this one

Last project will be the handbrake.. it is working but not holding. Some spring or ratchet broken likely.. have to remove the middle console. Anyone experience wit handbrake issues?
 
koentador said:
Wow epic color on your 3200. If you’ve tried Eurospares, Scuderiaparts and Maranello I cannot help you.

So finally I received the right ‘Bosch’ starter motor which turned out to be a reconditioned Valeo starter anyway.. But okay with that.. been waiting for too long already. Did the installment today and got it running! Also replaced the knock sensors, 32mm silicon hoses on the water manifold, air filters, spark plugs and both belts. Mostly thanks to great topics such as this one

Last project will be the handbrake.. it is working but not holding. Some spring or ratchet broken likely.. have to remove the middle console. Anyone experience wit handbrake issues?
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ok the handbrake is a bit of a pig. and although almost every part of it can be troublesome the actual handbrake lever and ratchet has never been a problem on my car so its the only bit i have never worked on!!! i tihnk if you remove the center console you should get enough access to the lever mechanism to work out what's up with it. io am trying to remember but i think it might even be possible to just remove the leather surround bit without dismantling the ceter console?
 
Handbrake turned out to be an easy fix. Manual is very clear on how to remove the center console. Upon removal I saw that the little sprocket that holds the handle in place had fallen down. Could not find where the locking pin had gone. I fixed the issue simply with an M8 bolt and nut to secure the sprocket et voila the brake is working again.
Is it normal that the handbrake light on the dash is blinking when the brake is activated?
Next week the car is checked for EU-approval (fingers crossed). This will be the first drive for me and a long time for the Maser since it was imported early '23 from Japan and not used by the previous owner (collector). Really looking forward to that moment.
 
CliveT said:
Just been looking at this thread, my knock sensors are throwing a full code so have ordered a couple. Unfortunately car would not start thus off to Rose's Garage in Sandwich ( great guys) due to a crank sensor failure. We think this was caused by a small weep from a hose thus will be upgrading to a nice set of matt black silicones. I am struggling to find a crank sensor in stock, is there a Bosch equivalent to the Magneti Marelli Part?
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