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CatmanV2 said:
Assuming properly prepped and wrapped it'll be fine for a couple of years. Might start getting a bit dry if it gets freezer burn from bad wrapping but last year's should be just dandy this year

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Well that’s bloody strange. I put a turkey in our freezer last night and the cooker was dead this morning:(
 
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CatmanV2 said:
I also have issues with Rory Celyn knows nothing about technology and Hugh Pym, the Health Editor with zero scientific training.....
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Guilty secret. I wrote a complaint email to the Today programme, following Amol Rajan's first day.
Almost the first thing he did was pronounce Rhyl as rile and I literally couldn't believe it.
I've never even been to Rhyl. But even I know how its pronounced.
Worryingly, I just noticed that he went to the same secondary school as Naga Munchetti.
Streatham cabal building?

I used to take a perverse delight in watching Nicolas Witchell report on The Firm. Knowing
the mutual antipathy was off the scale and always had been.

I stopped watching breakfast television years ago. I don't watch anything on television anymore truth be told.
I dip into YT for American highlights most days and sometimes the iPlayer for something decent.
But, as you said. Sadly, Auntie is becoming irrelevant.
I used to get great comfort, as did our Polaris submarine commanders, in hearing the jaunty World Service theme where ever I happened to be in the world. Sadly, even that's gone.
Not all progress is progress.
 
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I may reach for a tin foil hat ;)
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Well, quite. From the Black Panthers in the USA to the ALF and Greenham Common women in the UK, such movements have not only been infiltrated, but prompted into extreme actions, by agents seeking to destabilise such movements.
I wouldn’t be surprised if similar was going on here.
 
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CatmanV2 said:
I also have issues with Rory Celyn knows nothing about technology and Hugh Pym, the Health Editor with zero scientific training.....

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Playing Devil’s advocate - and as a journalist who spent five years on a veterinary journal despite never being anywhere near a bovine prolapse - the role of such reporters is not to know everything about technology or health, but package and interpret dense technical information and statistics in a way that 95 per cent of people listening at any one moment will understand and comprehend.
Also, if someone knows or, more accurately, thinks they know everything about a certain subject, it’s more likely they are less likely to query something, rather than act on presumed knowledge, or even ask the right questions from an interviewee.
Now I’m sure you have good reasons for doubting Pym and RCJ, but try to imagine the enormity of explaining something like blockchain to an audience for whom blockchain sounds like something you’d use to clear a sink blockage.
 
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Playing Devil’s advocate - and as a journalist who spent five years on a veterinary journal despite never being anywhere near a bovine prolapse - the role of such reporters is not to know everything about technology or health, but package and interpret dense technical information and statistics in a way that 95 per cent of people listening at any one moment will understand and comprehend.
Also, if someone knows or, more accurately, thinks they know everything about a certain subject, it’s more likely they are less likely to query something, rather than act on presumed knowledge, or even ask the right questions from an interviewee.
Now I’m sure you have good reasons for doubting Pym and RCJ, but try to imagine the enormity of explaining something like blockchain to an audience for whom blockchain sounds like something you’d use to clear a sink blockage.
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Totally agree. I don't expect (or indeed want) them to know everything about their area. I do, however, want them to know more than the level of 'social media', such that they can make educated judgments on questions and answers as opposed to just becoming ignorant interrogators who can neither formulate questions other than those that social media tell should be asked, or interpret the answers from a position of, at least, some technical understanding.

From personal experience Rory whatever knew nothing about technology. From what I've heard him say Hugh Pym knows nothing about basic science other than what he's being told by those he's currently consulting. Of course, the same might be said of all of us, however one might expect that an 'education' would, at least, be un-biased at least within the context of today's news.

Perhaps we should challenge our audiences more (I get that that might not promote high figures, and I further get that that might be a gross over simplification) but there is a line to be drawn between spoon feeding and saying 'take some damned responsibility for learning what's going on.' There was a piece on R4 the other day about kids seeing pornography. Limited sample size but overwhelmingly the kids' wish was that parents implemented parental controls on what they could access. But 'parents' so often go 'It's too hard, the FANGs need to do it for me'

Further I'd rather that we had someone that at least understood blockchain to a reasonable extent explain it to the masses. As opposed to someone who is, to all appearances, totally unable to understand anything more complex than a microwave.


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CatmanV2 said:
Not that many years ago I used to pretty regularly travel to Marlow for early (i.e. 0500) releases which meant being on the road about 0330. I used to love The World Service, and (obvs) The shipping forecast on those drives
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When I was 11, my parents sent me to a boarding school on the North Coast. Just far enough away from the daily carnage of Belfast and Londonderry. Unfortunately, in that era, the boarding department was a cold and brutal place and very like Lord of the Flies in it's hierarchy. I used to love listening to a book at bedtime and the midnight news, which because it was the World Service, had a definite international slant. After the shipping forecast and the news,
the Book at Bedtime used to give me the escapism I needed and one book in particular, I never forgot. A High Wind in Jamaica. I haven't listened to the audio version of the book, but I shall soon. I didn't know at the time, that it was a masterpiece of English Literature. I just knew it as a great yarn and a place that I'd much rather be.
 
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Nayf said:
Playing Devil’s advocate - and as a journalist who spent five years on a veterinary journal despite never being anywhere near a bovine prolapse - the role of such reporters is not to know everything about technology or health, but package and interpret dense technical information and statistics in a way that 95 per cent of people listening at any one moment will understand and comprehend.
Also, if someone knows or, more accurately, thinks they know everything about a certain subject, it’s more likely they are less likely to query something, rather than act on presumed knowledge, or even ask the right questions from an interviewee.
Now I’m sure you have good reasons for doubting Pym and RCJ, but try to imagine the enormity of explaining something like blockchain to an audience for whom blockchain sounds like something you’d use to clear a sink blockage.
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Generally agree but I want the interviewer to be polite and have some manners
There is now a sub culture of celebrity interviewers who think they are more important than the subject or their victim. It started with Robin Day but has now (as usual) got out of hand in my opinion
 
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Generally agree but I want the interviewer to be polite and have some manners
There is now a sub culture of celebrity interviewers who think they are more important than the subject or their victim. It started with Robin Day but has now (as usual) got out of hand in my opinion
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Was it Humphrys that epitomised this? Never let anyone finish an answer?

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It's everything, it's out of control, insulate Britain is the tip of the iceberg, we are too lefty!
 
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daverichardson said:
Generally agree but I want the interviewer to be polite and have some manners
There is now a sub culture of celebrity interviewers who think they are more important than the subject or their victim. It started with Robin Day but has now (as usual) got out of hand in my opinion
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This is true, and I find it something that annoys me.
On the other hand, how do you cut through the well-rehearsed spray of ********? Knocking a politician off guard might get to the ‘truer truth’.
The politicians - well, their media advisors (ahem) - are well on to this and have been for years. Pausing and saying the interviewer’s name allows time for the politician to get brain space and formulate a path. Notice the beats of time when it happens.
The alternative is simply to repeat the same statement over and over again.
But yes, there is the cult of personality about programmes; however, on the Today programme, if you notice, News happens every half an hour, what happens in between makes the news. That’s the distinction.
 
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