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safrane

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Apparently the DIY and Garden Centres are chocker with people preparing for full lock down... getting their garden and DIY things done whilst WFH etc.

So that probably another few thousand exposed for the sake of vanity.

On a positive I have received confirmation of a small barch of PPE arrived at a RAF base for us, so driver and van dispatched first thing.

Now on day 13 in Command mode and starting to feel a tad tired. No new news on our staff member who is in a induced coma.
 

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Taken from Nicky Grist a well known Rally Competitor at WRC level a few years ago.

This is a report sent to me by the boss of Stilo, which is based on the outskirts of Bergamo. This is a clear indication of what happens when you don’t respect Covid 19 and act accordingly:

Copy from the wall of Flavio Carera
Perfect analysis of what happened in Bergamo.

BERGAMO - A month later, as we prepare to count the living and army trucks take away another 80 coffins, it's time to start asking questions. And above all, to find answers. Why Bergamo? How come a city of 110 thousand inhabitants becomes the lazzaretto of Italy, second in the world, for dead and infections, only in Wuhan? Why did the coronavirus choose this province to open a scary rift and put something like a quarter of the crosses spread in 30 days in Italy? These are the questions that are asking, together with thousands of families, scholars, experts and observers of the "abnormal curve" Bergamo.

The first answer, straight, comes one from Silvio Garattini, Bergamo, president and founder of Mario Negri institute. " Unfortunately, here has been privileged to protect economic activity over health protection - he says -. Yet the Codogno model was known. Why wasn't it also applied to Bergamo, in the outbreak of the Seriana valley that had already started producing an alarming number of infected and deaths? In Codogno they immediately set up the red zone. In Bergamo there was a serious underestimation. Whose responsibility it is not for me to say. But I can say that the failure to close the outbreak of Alzano and Nembro was a detonator ".

Before we try to dissolve the mystery of the red zone, let's see what it entails. In the province of Bergamo, 400 people died in the last week, 88 yesterday. The infections have reached 5.869. No other Italian province has these numbers. But, in relation to the percentage, not even world. More: according to Mayor Gori, the numbers would be 4 times lower than reality (taking into account the many elderly people who died in the house without the buffer being performed). A reliable projection - between official and submerged numbers - leads to an estimate of more than 1000 deaths. Maybe 1.500 (out of 4.825 in the country). So: one out of 4 dead in Italy is Bergamo. Of this viral bomb Raise and Nembro were the triggers.

We are on February 23th. Four days after the Champions Atalanta-Valencia match at San Siro, where 45 thousand fans accelerated the domino effect of coronavirus. At Pesenti Fenaroli hospital in Alzano the first two Bergamaschi cases are investigated. If not both, one definitely stopped by the ER. The reverb of fear that turned on February 21 in the other outbreak, Codogno, prompts the health management to close the hospital. It is supposed to sanify and create a safe zone dedicated to hospitalized for the virus. That's not how it is. Hospital reopens a few hours later. A few days go by and it turns out that several doctors and nurses are positive and symptomatic. Many will get sick: chief, doctors, nurses, stretchers. And of course - it's easy to guess - many of those who have stopped by the hospital. But the most interesting detail is February 12 An inhabitant of Villa di Serio tells Bergamonews that his mother is admitted to Alzano for a heart failure that day. Nine days later he dies.

" It's February 21th. The nurses that day entered the rooms with protective masks of the ones then distributed for the coronavirus. Maybe at the hospital they suspected Covid-19 for a few days ". The burning room is set up in the church of San Lorenzo. " There were a lot of people, hugging each other. For days, despite the number of deaths growing, assembrations and contacts continued ". The two weeks between February 23 and March 8th (when the second Dpcm arrives to stem the contagion). Let's set this time frame. In Alzano and Nembro, and now throughout the Seriana Valley, the days pass and dead and infected increase at record rate. Regional councillor Giulio Gallera asks and requests Rome to set up a red zone. It's done, it's not done. Nothing at all. All open. " Many companies in the area have continuous contacts with China - says Alberto Zucchi, epidemiological service director Ats Bergamo -. The virus in the valley is likely to circulate before Codogno. Since December, maybe. But we didn't know him. A series of pneumonia were charged to flu complications, then we discovered to be Covid-19. They were warning signs ". Companies therefore. The 376 businesses and 3.700 employees. Could they stop? Apparently not.

Meanwhile from Alzano the contagion expands to the province. What's going on? Nothing at all. On February 28 Confindustria Bergamo launched the campaign "Bergamo is running", a video to calm European partners. "The operations of our companies are not contagious", says General Director Paolo Piantoni. In Bergamo on February 28th there are 103 cases: they will grow. But no one cares. Gori - then with honesty will admit underestimation - thinks that social life and precautions can still coexist. Gallera first excludes the red zone, then on March 3th, realizes. Until we beat the fists with Rome: "The decision is in government". The ok will never come. " Once you allow the virus to spread you can't do anything anymore. You can try to stem, but it's hard ", says Garattini. Today the Bergamaschi don't even have a coffin for the dead to cry on. They just count them. Before the military collects them to bring them to cremate in other cities.

(Salvo Thin)
 

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Just reported on our news that we have lost our first Doctor working on the frontline here in France to the virus :(
We have lost several already sadly. Some reported many not. Lots on life support

The general feeling is lambs to the slaughter at the moment
 

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Earlier on this week Boris stated that ‘this weekend’ the over 70’s and ones with underlying health issues will need to stay in and have no contact for 12 weeks.

Today, the government are saying only the 1.5million most seriously unwell, with certain cancers, lung disease etc, need to stay indoors for 12 weeks, from Monday.

This, I believe, unlike anywhere in the world, is a REDUCTION in restrictions. The message sent to over 70’s and people with more general underlying conditions, like my wife with type 1 diabetes and my 80 year old dad, is actually you don’t need to lock down for 12 weeks now. Unbelievable.


We shall obviously ignore this cr@p and stay away from everyone. I’m just waiting to hear a government response to this u-turn when one of the media outlets actually remembers what he said earlier and questions him over it...
 
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we are right royally fooked with this donkey government, they've been in denial for a fair while now and still don't have the balls to stop pu-ssy footing about, would love to be a fly on the wall during the cobra meetings
 

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Disgusting :(

When I go in a supermarket and see all these D-heads with full trolleys, filling their cars up with needless ****, empty shelves (especially bread & fresh veg which will be thrown away) the more I think a lot of us actually deserve this virus. If only it could select the f-wits and stock pilers. Maybe we should pick out one supermarket, fully rationed and delivery only. The clued up use that. Let the dickwads run around the other supermarkets all day, fighting and infecting each other
 

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I am going to avoid the shops for at least another week hopefully things settle down a bit. I fear not though as it will be end of month pay day and people will do more stockpiling. I might try the butchers, green grocers and farm shops as I follow the local ones on Twitter and they are saying that they are well stocked

I am running out of rice i go through about 10kg bag in 3 months and now there is none at the supermarkets and if you look on Amazon 1kg of rice is £25, wtf. I am going to pop to the chinese wholesaler midweek they have stock and are rationing 1 bag of rice per customer which is fine with me.

My sister is a social worker in South Devon and is working even longer hours. Her daughter/my niece will continue to go to school through this and they are worried about her bringing the vijrus home. She has been complaining that she has to go to 4 super markets to just get a weekly shop in! No idea how the NHS staff are coping with this sh!t show at the shops after what they have to deal with at work currently.. The emotional and psychology drain must be immense
 

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the government needs to bring in marshall law now before things really escalate to major rioting
A member of my family is Asthmatic, and is just recovering from Bronchitis. Although she is a key NHS staff member she had been told to stay home pending further risk assessment by the management team, but she has just been recalled for work.

This morning, with ID in hand, she went to shop at a local supermarket during the much-publicised ‘NHS slot’, but the door staff were overrun by people who had no NHS ID and no intention of doing anything other than helping themselves to groceries as fast as they could and söd anyone else. As she was putting her shopping in her car, she was harangued by a driver who told her to hurry up as he wanted her parking slot.

The supermarket has long since dispensed with dedicated security staff, and oh how I wish I’d been with her……

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A member of my family is Asthmatic, and is just recovering from Bronchitis. Although she is a key NHS staff member she had been told to stay home pending further risk assessment by the management team, but she has just been recalled for work.

This morning, with ID in hand, she went to shop at a local supermarket during the much-publicised ‘NHS slot’, but the door staff were overrun by people who had no NHS ID and no intention of doing anything other than helping themselves to groceries as fast as they could and söd anyone else. As she was putting her shopping in her car, she was harangued by a driver who told her to hurry up as he wanted her parking slot.

The supermarket has long since dispensed with dedicated security staff, and oh how I wish I’d been with her……

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Me too. It would get messy. Vigilante groups supporting at risk NHS workers and elderly wouldn’t be a bad call right now. It’s a sweeping generalisation but I wonder how many of these **** live off state handouts and child benefit.
 

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A member of my family is Asthmatic, and is just recovering from Bronchitis. Although she is a key NHS staff member she had been told to stay home pending further risk assessment by the management team, but she has just been recalled for work.

This morning, with ID in hand, she went to shop at a local supermarket during the much-publicised ‘NHS slot’, but the door staff were overrun by people who had no NHS ID and no intention of doing anything other than helping themselves to groceries as fast as they could and söd anyone else. As she was putting her shopping in her car, she was harangued by a driver who told her to hurry up as he wanted her parking slot.

The supermarket has long since dispensed with dedicated security staff, and oh how I wish I’d been with her……

PH

I am lost for words and hope that your family member is recovering and gets the supplies she needs, we need these brave front line staff, this simply boils my blood and these people are nothing short of animals, where are the police, presumably too busy issuing speeding tickets, surely this would be a breach of the peace at the very least
 

iainw

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I am lost for words and hope that your family member is recovering and gets the supplies she needs, we need these brave front line staff, this simply boils my blood and these people are nothing short of animals, where are the police, presumably too busy issuing speeding tickets, surely this would be a breach of the peace at the very least
meanwhile... the unemployed fight for their weekly pasta and beer
 

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I agree that Marshall law should now be introduced. Clearly the idiots are too stupid to listen to sound and sensible advice. Now we have to force the issue and treat them like the selfish morons that they are.

To ask our NHS staff to work in these conditions without the right tools or resources is crazy.

My first thing to do would be to introduce a wealth tax to all the super rich and a compulsory across the board tax on all rich businesses and give it to NHS staff. The likes of Branson have shown their true colours and are borderline criminals in my eyes at the moment.

If we don't act now....and I mean now....it is going to get even more out of control than it already is.
 
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