Savings Interest Rates Getting Worse

rockits

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If you can pay in a cheque from your phone can you do a DD from your phone as well?

Didn't know you could do that. How do you pay a cheque in from your phone?
 

RobinL

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Really? Last time I paid one in (with my phone) it took about 10 minutes.

And the fraud? That came along very much at the same time

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"2-4-6 is a clearing system brought in by the Cheque and Credit Clearing Company who carry out cheque clearing for UK Banks. 2-4-6 indicates the two days until the money is earning interest, the 4 days until you can withdraw, and the 6 days until you can be sure that the cheque funds have been applied to your account." (Quote from Santander)


So the act of paying in is quick enough. But availability is slower!

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bigbob

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I presume you took this lying down? The interest rates on max deposit per month accounts are just headline marketing stuff designed to pull you in as the difference in ££ between a good account and a bad one is not a lot. Saving is a good thing but don't expect anything material on cash deposits.
 

CatmanV2

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Really? Last time I paid one in (with my phone) it took about 10 minutes.

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If you can pay in a cheque from your phone can you do a DD from your phone as well?

Didn't know you could do that. How do you pay a cheque in from your phone?

I can't set up new DDs but can transfer to either existing or new payees. With the cheque you take a photo with the app (at least with the HSBC)

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CatmanV2

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"2-4-6 is a clearing system brought in by the Cheque and Credit Clearing Company who carry out cheque clearing for UK Banks. 2-4-6 indicates the two days until the money is earning interest, the 4 days until you can withdraw, and the 6 days until you can be sure that the cheque funds have been applied to your account." (Quote from Santander)


So the act of paying in is quick enough. But availability is slower!

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News to me. In any event, I didn't have to go to a branch and the money appeared to be there immediately. <shrug>

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2b1ask1

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I have a savings account with Lloyd’s and got the interest rate halved as of 1/1/20 but not fussed, it has been slashed from 0.02% to 0.01% so my £5 is not going to grow much this year, I suspect it cost them more to send the letter than I will loose!
 

Davidt99

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I can't set up new DDs but can transfer to either existing or new payees. With the cheque you take a photo with the app (at least with the HSBC)

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Same with Lloyd's, it's an easy way to pay in a cheque, just take a photo from the app.
 

Wattie

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Wattie will be along to tell you to buy gold but seriously banks are a close second to politicians in my list of untrustworthy groups. They seem to apply rules that always suit themselves but cry foul as soon as they caught out. A lot of the financial issues over the last few years seem to be down to banks questionable actions.

I will indeed, (thank you for the fabulous introduction) and seeing as how you're 'pound cost averaging' your savings the risk is reduced even more.

GBP.
2 down years in the last 15- so 86.6% upside (so almost a 9/10 historically) with an average return of 12.2%pa. Last year 14.2%
Oh, and Gold is legally yours whereas a bank can immediately refuse to give you your money back or indeed restrict your access.63995
 
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rivarama

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I will indeed, (thank you for the fabulous introduction) and seeing as how you're 'pound cost averaging' your savings the risk is reduced even more.

GBP.
2 down years in the last 15- so 86.6% upside (so almost a 9/10 historically) with an average return of 12.2%pa. Last year 14.2%
Oh, and Gold is legally yours whereas a bank can immediately refuse to give you your money back or indeed restrict your access.View attachment 63995
Can you please compare the return of the stock market over the same period? Just for the benefit of the public...
also please adjust both the gold and stock market appreciation from FX, and commission/cost of ownership/insurance.
That will be a fairer comparison
 

Wattie

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Can you please compare the return of the stock market over the same period? Just for the benefit of the public...
also please adjust both the gold and stock market appreciation from FX, and commission/cost of ownership/insurance.
That will be a fairer comparison
No, you can do that if you want.
The stock market is far far riskier as a deposit alternative and is currently totally reliant on the Fed money printing to maintain the illusion all is just fine.
Golds returns whether derived from fx moves or whatever are still ‘returns’.
Solid ones.
 
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Scaf

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I think you did well to find the 4.5% and 5% in the first place and with some mortgages down to 1.4% I guess we can’t have it both ways.

Having said that, slashing the rate overnight feels harsh as does the hike in “agreed” overdrafts mentioned by someone else, an unintended consequence of the FCA’s ruling that you can’t charge more for of or arranged v arranged.
 

JonW

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Interesting thread...

So what’s the collective view on the best place to put some “spare” money?

When I say “spare” I mean money you wouldn’t want to lose, but stuff that is left over once you’ve done the sensible things like top up your pension, pay down the mortgage, stick some to one side for contingencies, etc...
 

rockits

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I've no idea but I'm all ears and exploring the best options.

I might looking at adding some cash into my investment ISA that has sat static for a while. Then be a bit more pro active and buy some low risk stocks with decent dividends. Must return a much higher rate with little effort and lowish risk.
 

Felonious Crud

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Interesting thread...

So what’s the collective view on the best place to put some “spare” money?

When I say “spare” I mean money you wouldn’t want to lose, but stuff that is left over once you’ve done the sensible things like top up your pension, pay down the mortgage, stick some to one side for contingencies, etc...

I've been looking at this and have concluded that it's all shite. Honestly, there are no good rates. Even ISAs pay out sod all. You may as well just leave it in your current account. RPI is higher than most interest rates so the value of that saved money will fall in real terms. My thinking is that the priorities are:

  1. Some kind of pension. Could be an actual pension or enough liquidity to ride out a retirement
  2. Pay off all debts in descending order of interest rate
  3. Enough money in the war-chest to cope with xx months or not generating any income
  4. Blow it on cars.

The jury seems to be out on whether any spare cash should be thrown at the mortgage or put in the rainy day pot. As the rainy day pot pays feck all interest then it may as well go on the mortgage, which incurs a cost.

But that's a layman's opinion. Greater minds know far more about all this fun stuff than I do.