This QP price dropping.

Phil H

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For far too long there has been uncertainty about Brexit/no Brexit, Labour/Conservative or hung Parliament, and so on. It has adversely affected all markets from domestic to industrial and commercial and folk have been apprehensive about their futures. The election won't solve all that, but it will cut a lot of cr@p from the political arena and allow the country to breathe again, and by Easter I think/hope we will see a new dawn for the UK (even Michael Heseltine has conceded on Brexit). So whilst the impending election didn't directly influence car prices I think it did so indirectly which is why imho we should see some recovery.

The EV debate will rumble on for a few years yet, and given the lack of domestic and international action on green policies I'm sure that many folk will tire of the subject, look at V8's and luxo-barges in 2020 and then think "Sod it - why not?"

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There is no doubt that this QP is a real stunner but to be honest it is still overpriced compared with the general market, even though it is a low mileage example. I'm also not too convinced by the colour combo but I guess that's down to personal taste. But buyers for any older QP's right now seem to be pretty well non existent. I've been offered prices as low as £12k for my QP which I have point blankly refused to accept. I would rather keep it than give it away. The market for these cars is shockingly bad just now.
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Was offered £16k for mine in Jan 2018 as write-off after a minor rear end impact. I took £9k and repaired it and also did a load of other jobs at the same time. Wheel refurb, service, etc.

There wasn’t a seconds hesitation for me as I don’t want to let my QP go.

With prices the way they are now and so few newer V8’s available, I don’t know what it could be replaced with.
 
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I hope you're right Phil....to be honest the slow market conditions for the older QP's has been getting a bit tedious. So I am hoping with the election out of the way now, the market may well start to turn the corner for good QP's.
 
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I can't believe yours still hasn't gone, it's immaculate.
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I had some serious interest recently but sadly lost out to a newer GTS even though my QP is in stunning condition for it's age. So I am hopeful I will find a buyer soon, just need to be patient. But I must admit when I bought this wonderful machine 3 years ago, I really had no idea how hard it would be to sell on. Probably more my naivety than anything else. It's the ongoing maintenance costs which seems to be the real killer.
 
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Was offered £16k for mine in Jan 2018 as write-off after a minor rear end impact. I took £9k and repaired it and also did a load of other jobs at the same time. Wheel refurb, service, etc.

There wasn’t a seconds hesitation for me as I don’t want to let my QP go.

With prices the way they are now and so few newer V8’s available, I don’t know what it could be replaced with.
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Seemingly the Granturismo is much more popular vs the QP, especially for newbies coming into market for the first time. The QP is a more of a narrower market with it having 4 doors even though it is a really beautiful car.
 
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Seems reading this I may have been the only private buyer of a QPV this year at over 20k !

Do I regret it? No way! I’m over the moon with it, I just can’t believe people don’t snap up all the 4.7’s (S or GTS) at the current prices when they come up for sale. Sure, they aren’t cheap to run, but it’s a **** sight cheaper than £500/month for a new car with fancy ‘infotainment’.

I’m clearly different in my choice of vehicle than 99.5% of the uk car buying population though. But I’m right, everyone else is wrong!
You just don’t get bored of walking up to your beautiful quattroporte in the morning and firing up that Ferrari V8. It’s hard to match at any price to be honest, never mind the price of a mid range hatchback.
 
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I completely agree!!...They are stunning cars. When I hear that 4.7 V8 starting up its just incredible. Thats when I start to question "what am doing"....but having recently retired, sadly the ongoing running costs are not really an option longer term. So maybe what I should be doing is sell the house and keep the QP!!:):) But don't think the missus would agree with me!
 
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gb-gta said:
Seems reading this I may have been the only private buyer of a QPV this year at over 20k !

Do I regret it? No way! I’m over the moon with it, I just can’t believe people don’t snap up all the 4.7’s (S or GTS) at the current prices when they come up for sale. Sure, they aren’t cheap to run, but it’s a **** sight cheaper than £500/month for a new car with fancy ‘infotainment’.

I’m clearly different in my choice of vehicle than 99.5% of the uk car buying population though. But I’m right, everyone else is wrong!
You just don’t get bored of walking up to your beautiful quattroporte in the morning and firing up that Ferrari V8. It’s hard to match at any price to be honest, never mind the price of a mid range hatchback.
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Beautifully said...
 
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Silvercat said:
I completely agree!!...They are stunning cars. When I hear that 4.7 V8 starting up its just incredible. Thats when I start to question "what am doing"....but having recently retired, sadly the ongoing running costs are not really an option longer term. So maybe what I should be doing is sell the house and keep the QP!!:):) But don't think the missus would agree with me!
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That would be a hard sell as a retirement plan....

You do realise the retirement car of choice is a Honda jazz?
Both my dad and father in law have one! To be fair, I think they are great little cars, although the complete opposite of a quattroporte in every possible way. Also, an extreme solution to reducing running costs in one step I’d have to admit.
 
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Silvercat said:
There is no doubt that this QP is a real stunner but to be honest it is still overpriced compared with the general market, even though it is a low mileage example. I'm also not too convinced by the colour combo but I guess that's down to personal taste. But buyers for any older QP's right now seem to be pretty well non existent. I've been offered prices as low as £12k for my QP which I have point blankly refused to accept. I would rather keep it than give it away. The market for these cars is shockingly bad just now.
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Even with the lower mileage is it really worth nearly £10K more than your's and have the Variators been done in the anything it needs service?
 
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Nikko said:
Even with the lower mileage is it really worth nearly £10K more than your's and have the Variators been done in the anything it needs service?
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I agree......my car has been fully serviced, MoT'd, cam shells done, cam tensioners, front suspension bushes, battery etc., etc..and the subframe has been protected .
 
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Silvercat said:
I completely agree!!...They are stunning cars. When I hear that 4.7 V8 starting up its just incredible. Thats when I start to question "what am doing"....but having recently retired, sadly the ongoing running costs are not really an option longer term. So maybe what I should be doing is sell the house and keep the QP!!:):) But don't think the missus would agree with me!
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Then I suggest you bundle the missus with the house then, kind of a sweetener.
 
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Nikko said:
Even with the lower mileage is it really worth nearly £10K more than your's and have the Variators been done in the anything it needs service?
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Yes I believe the variators were done when RW had it. It was a very well sorted car but as you say 10k more than Silvercats car........which again feels like a well sorted car.
 
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Phil H said:
For far too long there has been uncertainty about Brexit/no Brexit, Labour/Conservative or hung Parliament, and so on. It has adversely affected all markets from domestic to industrial and commercial and folk have been apprehensive about their futures. The election won't solve all that, but it will cut a lot of cr@p from the political arena and allow the country to breathe again, and by Easter I think/hope we will see a new dawn for the UK (even Michael Heseltine has conceded on Brexit). So whilst the impending election didn't directly influence car prices I think it did so indirectly which is why imho we should see some recovery.

The EV debate will rumble on for a few years yet, and given the lack of domestic and international action on green policies I'm sure that many folk will tire of the subject, look at V8's and luxo-barges in 2020 and then think "Sod it - why not?"

PH
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This is pretty much where I am at the moment, holding off and holding off, meanwhile building up my next car buying pot, with an eye on having a QPV if at all possible. I suppose this in itself is part of the 'uncertainty' problem in that it's not good for the economy in general, so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I do think things will improve next year though, at work things are looking up with new long term contracts landing at our feet. The mortgage is paid off now, we've no other debts although we're continuing to spend money on home improvements, I just need to make my mind up which car / cars I really want and stick with the decision. That's the hardest part...!
 
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P5Nij said:
This is pretty much where I am at the moment, holding off and holding off, meanwhile building up my next car buying pot, with an eye on having a QPV if at all possible. I suppose this in itself is part of the 'uncertainty' problem in that it's not good for the economy in general, so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I do think things will improve next year though, at work things are looking up with new long term contracts landing at our feet. The mortgage is paid off now, we've no other debts although we're continuing to spend money on home improvements, I just need to make my mind up which car / cars I really want and stick with the decision. That's the hardest part...!
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A nice problem to have!! You could do much, much worse with £26k...
 
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To my eyes, this model hasn't aged particularly well. Whereas the Granturismo has. It just looks 'right' from every angle and is practical for a niche coupe. The QPV design must be twenty years old, give or take and it shows.
Put it next to its roughly equivalent MB or BMW and it starts to look as dated as a Rover P6 or SD1. The difference being, SD1 prices are on the way up.
Why would you choose a QPV over a GT unless you had to have four doors.
In this car's case, the colour will put many off. 'Purple' is just about the least popular car colour.
Factor in the cost of ownership and the marque's reputation for unreliability and the market for this car and those like it, becomes exceedingly small. I know I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't know.
I'm not saying its a bad car. Car buying is at least partly subjective if you're a petrol head, so beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My ten cents. I'm off to grab my tin hat and flak vest ;)
 
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