Greta Thunberg

CatmanV2 · Dec 17, 2019

rockits said:
I am not enamoured by the way she forces her singled minded attitudes in a slightly condescending way down at people.

But she doesn't. The only place I tend to see Greta's views is right here....

rockits said:
When you get the like and scale of some US coffee chains still using largely not unrecycled or unrecyclable cups these the simple changes that can make massive inroads.

Sorry, fiddling around the edges IMHO. Stop breeding. Oh, have I mentioned that before?

C

rockits · Dec 17, 2019

I agree 100% that the population needs to reduce not increase. Been saying it for years. If we limited repoduction to 2 children this would be enough to reduce population to much more manageable levels.

I never understand this growth thing. We have it everywhere.....we are told we need growth.....why? Can't we be happy with what we have sometimes. Growth is not necessarily progress. Often it causes the reverse effect as we are finding.

philw696 · Dec 17, 2019

Being the oldest of 8 boys I knew I only wanted 2 children maximum.
It's Hard Work being a parent.
Don't think mine will have kids as at 57 I haven't any grandkids and some people have them early 30'S

Vampyrebat · Dec 17, 2019

The proof of this is all around we are seeing new estates being thrown up to accommodate for more people, our village alone comprised of about 49 properties until 2 years ago when a developer managed to get PP in a green belt area to build more than 50 new homes. More and more natural landscaping is being torn up to make way for this, taking away natural drainage and natural oxygen producing trees. No wonder there is more flooding now than there used to be................This is only going one way!!

GeoffCapes · Dec 17, 2019

Vampyrebat said:
The proof of this is all around we are seeing new estates being thrown up to accommodate for more people, our village alone comprised of about 49 properties until 2 years ago when a developer managed to get PP in a green belt area to build more than 50 new homes. More and more natural landscaping is being torn up to make way for this, taking away natural drainage and natural oxygen producing trees. No wonder there is more flooding now than there used to be................This is only going one way!!

50 homes! Near Ashford they have granted planning permission for 15,000!!!!
No doubt they will not do a thing about the infrastructure either!

CatmanV2 · Dec 17, 2019

rockits said:
I agree 100% that the population needs to reduce not increase. Been saying it for years. If we limited repoduction to 2 children this would be enough to reduce population to much more manageable levels.

Would it? Or would it keep it pretty much at the same level?

C

Wanderer · Dec 17, 2019

Adolf Hitler

CatmanV2 · Dec 17, 2019

Wanderer said:
Adolf Hitler

Was that a deliberate invocation of Godwin's law?

C

Wanderer · Dec 17, 2019

CatmanV2 said:
Was that a deliberate invocation of Godwin's law?

C

On iPhone! Dunno what happened but he was Time Magazines Man of the Year wasn’t he?

rockits · Dec 17, 2019

CatmanV2 said:
Would it? Or would it keep it pretty much at the same level?

C

I think it would reduce as some will still choose not to have children at all or have one. Also unfortunately it sounds terrible but some of our population will not have what we would regard as a full/long life. So I suspect a maximum of two will mean a natural easing/reduction in numbers.

CatmanV2 · Dec 17, 2019

rockits said:
I think it would reduce as some will still choose not to have children at all or have one. Also unfortunately it sounds terrible but some of our population will not have what we would regard as a full/long life. So I suspect a maximum of two will mean a natural easing/reduction in numbers.

I don't think it's enough. You have two, effectively by the time you reach grandparenthood that's 14 people as opposed to two, consuming right now.....

C

allandwf · Dec 17, 2019

War, famine and pestilence will take over, unfortunately, if we don't intervene. Harsh but true.

CatmanV2 · Dec 17, 2019

allandwf said:
War, famine and pestilence will take over, unfortunately, if we don't intervene. Harsh but true.

This is potentially true, indeed. We compete for ever decreasing, finite resources. Disease will increase and famine will be the lot of those that are not on the winning side

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Saigon · Dec 17, 2019

CatmanV2 said:
This is potentially true, indeed. We compete for ever decreasing, finite resources. Disease will increase and famine will be the lot of those that are not on the winning side

C

It’s not until an honest and realistic time frame is put in front of us that we start to take some notice.

philw696 · Dec 17, 2019

I'm taking up cycling.

CatmanV2 · Dec 17, 2019

Saigon said:
It’s not until an honest and realistic time frame is put in front of us that we start to take some notice.

How will you be able to tell?
C

Hurricane52 · Dec 17, 2019

For Greta fans and fiends alike there’s a short but very amusing take on BBC iPlayer from Philomena Cunk.

happydaze · Dec 17, 2019

allandwf said:
War, famine and pestilence will take over, unfortunately, if we don't intervene. Harsh but true.

And there's volcanos, tsunami, large objects hitting the planet, etc. to consider as well. Not possible to "intervene" there...

allandwf · Dec 17, 2019

happydaze said:
And there's volcanos, tsunami, large objects hitting the planet, etc. to consider as well. Not possible to "intervene" there...

My suggestions are normally the result of over population, perhaps "yours" are more humane or easier to accept? Acts of god?

rockits · Dec 18, 2019

CatmanV2 said:
I don't think it's enough. You have two, effectively by the time you reach grandparenthood that's 14 people as opposed to two, consuming right now.....

C

I don't follow...if two parents create max two children for every generation, some one and some none Then with natural death or life expectancy only increasing a small amount a bit of disease, famine and a little bit of war thrown in would that not reduce population levels?

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