Jackpoint stands - same place for jacking and stand

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https://shop.jackpointjackstands.com/main.sc

These allow you to use a conventional floor jack to lift a car on the proper jacking point and then use that same location to support the car on the Jackpoint stands. The reason I need such a thing is that the Vantage has four jacking points (one at each corner) and those same jacking points are the only place I can use a car stand.

Have any of you tried these, or (better) are you aware of anything similar made or distributed in the UK?
 

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I've had drive on ones which go under wheels, hydraulic lift all 4 corners then lower onto your stands, and gives double safety as can support secondary via wheels. Obviously if taking all 4 wheels of you don't.
 
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That sounds like it might do the trick, Dave, ta. Which do you have and do you recommend 'em?
 
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I don't have them anymore. Got them half price from a stand @ NEC classic car show, years ago. I had a drama with one leaking so until was sorted, didn't lift simultaneously. Powerhouse or something rings a bell. I'll have a look on the net as I'm busy losing the will to live in debenhams. The wife has just gone into changing room with a clothes rail. Kid you not.
 
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Perfect timing for a trawl through tools online, then! Thanks, fella.

Lots of this stuff seems to be made and sold in the US, so shipping and taxes would kill it. I'm sure there are more local alternatives.
 
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Thanks, Zep. Yeah, those are the ones that I stumbled upon as well. The reviews are a bit mixed but I think they'd do the job. I need to work out whether they'd actually leave enough room to position the axle stand or whether the base of the ramp would be in the way. Your point about fore/aft movement is a good one.

My suspicion is that the Jackpoint stands would cost about the same and probably be less of a faff to use. What I have learned is that there are many different ways of lifting cars. I shall keep exploring.
 
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Zep, you got any solution for our ramps? I use the rubber blocks but there should be a tube/male dock that fits into the jacking point?

Should get 4 of these really as it risks crushing without.
 
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Yes, I looked at those (and similar) and was impressed. The only challenge is that all I really want to do is get underneath for cleaning, light maintenance, slapping on some anti-corrosion gunk and getting the car off the ground so I can get the wheels off for cleaning, pads and so on. a 6x price difference for the quick/scissor jacks is hard to justify... but I do like the look of them.
 
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conaero said:
Zep, you got any solution for our ramps? I use the rubber blocks but there should be a tube/male dock that fits into the jacking point?

Should get 4 of these really as it risks crushing without.
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What's your target height about ground level? I've spent quite a bit of time looking at ways of getting your car off the ground, and some of them are pretty ingenious. And some look bloody perilous. The annoying thing is that most seem to be US-made and supplied. Maybe those Americans are just more into DIY car maintenance than us Brits.
 
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My scissor lift goes to somewhere between a metre and 1200.

I sh!t myself when every I am under it and take precautions (wheels under the hubs) just in case. TBF the ramp is quality and has an anti surge valve on twin circuits. So if a hose was to split, the pressure ejection from the twin rams is stemmed. Mind you, I would want to test it!

I am more interested in the Ferrari/Maserati lifting pads. Voicey uses a 22mm socket up the hole then jacks off that. I would rather have the proper item.
 
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My likely approach will be to use hockey pucks as pads (milled Aston pads: £300 off the bloke that makes them; pucks: a few quid off ebay) and the Jackpoint stands. The challenge is to support from the same place that you jack from, and the Jackpoint stands solve that problem safely. They'll buy me about 16-18 inches of clearance under the car, which is plenty for scrabbling round doing easy stuff and no chance I'll drop 1700kg of hand-built Midlands engineering on my head while I'm down there.
 
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I have looked at various options around these recently as well. Some of them look a little to small or lightweight for my liking. Not sure I would want my hands, feet or head near them to feel safe. I am sure many are fine but I like to err on the side of caution and go a little more than I think I need.

Been looking at something like this as the favourite at the moment:
https://www.garageequipment.co.uk/V...R10GR-Scissor-Lift-Mid-Rise-1-Metre-Lift-with
 
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I haven't lifted mine yet due to the proximity of the back wall and the garage door but it is a matter of time as I need to get the calliper mount dimensions for the big brake kit. Based on what you have said Voicey does I am thinking some pieces of 6mm steel plate and a stub of 25mm diameter schedule 40 pipe are going to visit the welder. A bit of neoprene on the pipe end and the plate and a lifting pad is made. This would go on top of the rubber blocks for the scissor lift. Although to be fair, if the hole is strong enough to lift the car the surrounding structure is also going to be up to the job.

For the original issue of the Aston, I am going to visit a man who lifts a few Astons tomorrow - I will see if I can get a bit of info.
 
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rockits said:
I have looked at various options around these recently as well. Some of them look a little to small or lightweight for my liking. Not sure I would want my hands, feet or head near them to feel safe. I am sure many are fine but I like to err on the side of caution and go a little more than I think I need.

Been looking at something like this as the favourite at the moment:
https://www.garageequipment.co.uk/V...R10GR-Scissor-Lift-Mid-Rise-1-Metre-Lift-with
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I have a full height one from these people. I have seen them in quite a few garages and I have seen one in a picture of Voicey's place. They are pretty good value and mine was an absolute godsend when doing the oil pump on an Audi last week.

https://www.automotechservices.co.uk/product-category/scissor-lifts/
 
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Felonious Crud said:
Thanks, Zep. ‘t would be much appreciated.
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Ok, I have asked the question. The answer was that on the AMV the flat section with the jacking point in it is triangulated into the cars structure all the way along, and it is about 6 inches long.

By carefully positioning the jack you should be able to lift the car and then put an axle stand under the adjacent section, with a block (wood or rubber) under the other part of the lifting section. Aparently the Vanquishes are different in that the section is much smaller, so you risk floor damage.
 
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Zep said:
Ok, I have asked the question. The answer was that on the AMV the flat section with the jacking point in it is triangulated into the cars structure all the way along, and it is about 6 inches long.

By carefully positioning the jack you should be able to lift the car and then put an axle stand under the adjacent section, with a block (wood or rubber) under the other part of the lifting section. Aparently the Vanquishes are different in that the section is much smaller, so you risk floor damage.
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Zep, you're a beautiful man and I love you. The challenge I have, though, is that the V12S has a big surfboard still which wraps about 6 inches underneath and completely covers that outer beam. The only accessible places with a cut-out are the annoyingly and unhelpfully small jacking points.
 
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