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Never knew you did that Adam. That looks pretty good. just the right amount as well as to not make it look over done. Worth doing.
GT S to MC Stradale ownership
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Never knew you did that Adam. That looks pretty good. just the right amount as well as to not make it look over done. Worth doing.
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Well done Slay. You’ve bought a cracking machine, Stu looks after his cars and you are now the proud owner of a special piece of Maserati history.
I’ve had mine 16 months and still get all the same childish thrills every time I fire her up, she’s relatively practical too.
Here’s a photo of the carbon on mine, it’s not on the actual selectors but goes all around that unit, the coffee cup holders etc which seems to look ok. Any questions on ownership, just ask.
Mark.
I’ve had mine 16 months and still get all the same childish thrills every time I fire her up, she’s relatively practical too.
Here’s a photo of the carbon on mine, it’s not on the actual selectors but goes all around that unit, the coffee cup holders etc which seems to look ok. Any questions on ownership, just ask.
Mark.
Yes, it is always better to buy from a fellow enthusiast, knowing the car’s full history. Stu certainly look after his cars very well! Must be quite a dilemma for him in summer trying to decide which car to take out!
That carbon fiber piece looks very nice Mark, it is after market or original Maserati option? The one I saw on a website was asking for over 1200!
While we are on the topic I was curious to know what’s the actual mechanical or software difference between GTS MC Shift and MC stradale ?
Is it just the map of ECU and TCU or does it go beyond that in terms of engine and gearbox ? If so, has any attempt been made to modify the GTS MC shift ECU and TCU software with Stradale ?
Is it just the map of ECU and TCU or does it go beyond that in terms of engine and gearbox ? If so, has any attempt been made to modify the GTS MC shift ECU and TCU software with Stradale ?
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Strad has a few differences:
TCU race mode. This does away with the intermediate position in a gear change...the GTS in sport when change gear actuator goes to neutral then the next gear, a 2 step shift. The Strad is a single action.
Strad engine has an ultra low diamond coating on its internals.
ECU I suspect will have a different map but can’t confirm that.
Strad is actually lighter than a GtanSport buy single figure KG’s
Then you have carbon ceramic brakes that actually work plus the suspension has done away with Skyhook and is manual springs and dampers.
The seats really add to the experience as they are essentially buckets.
A lot of the electrics are gone to save weight. There is no electric reach and rake for example. Bonnet is composite material.
Exhaust is more free flowing too.
Then there are the obvious styling changes.
TCU race mode. This does away with the intermediate position in a gear change...the GTS in sport when change gear actuator goes to neutral then the next gear, a 2 step shift. The Strad is a single action.
Strad engine has an ultra low diamond coating on its internals.
ECU I suspect will have a different map but can’t confirm that.
Strad is actually lighter than a GtanSport buy single figure KG’s
Then you have carbon ceramic brakes that actually work plus the suspension has done away with Skyhook and is manual springs and dampers.
The seats really add to the experience as they are essentially buckets.
A lot of the electrics are gone to save weight. There is no electric reach and rake for example. Bonnet is composite material.
Exhaust is more free flowing too.
Then there are the obvious styling changes.
Sure about the weight? All standard GranTurismos weigh c1880kg wet, with no driver. Stradale is about 1750kg IIRC on the same basis. Surely the GS is lighter than this by about 100kg?
Also for 2012MY the GTS MC (but not the GTS Auto) got the Stradale engine with the 10PS upgrade to 450PS. When the GT Sport came out from 2013MY onwards all 4.7 GranTurismos have the same 460PS engine...I think!
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That's what I said. There's a confusion between side and front. Side are amber, front are white on the Stradale. The 2 seater Stradale has clear front headlights, the 4 seater has clear front with the maserati script in them. The sides are all amber. But can be changed easily to black or white.
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imho, it's more than the sum of its changes. A wonderful piece of aesthetic and acoustic design!
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Actually, this only applies to cars built on Tuesdays and Thursdays. The other days it depended on what bits they had lying around.....
Actually, this only applies to cars built on Tuesdays and Thursdays. The other days it depended on what bits they had lying around.....
Probably the case. I seriously doubt whether the 4.7 engine ever changed in it's ten year production run.
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Yes sorry once I'd read it again I removed it as I hadn't read it properly the 1st time, DOH!
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I think there are many more differences than the obvious and the brochures. Even studying part numbers does not work, as Outrun mention, parts bins were raided, and things were tweaked. The "diamond polished internals" was actually a full balance and blueprinting done, engine by engine, on the early models (that's what my MD told me, the service manager saw one being assembled in the factory - although I may have missed something in the translation).
The software is also tweaked: brakes, gearbox, engine.
Regarding the weight: again a conservative estimate. The bonnet is alloy, very little sound deadening in the whole car, no rear seats, bucket front seats with no electrics (two seater).
Just driving in Race mode one can feel how nervous the car becomes, higher shift points, lumpier idle. Also, find a stradale that under-performs on its brochure figueres: you won't. They all seem to over-perform. For sure these were little play things that someone in the Maserati factory was very happy to build, not quite letting on to big brother what was going on. I'll put mine on the dyno one day just to shut myself up!
The software is also tweaked: brakes, gearbox, engine.
Regarding the weight: again a conservative estimate. The bonnet is alloy, very little sound deadening in the whole car, no rear seats, bucket front seats with no electrics (two seater).
Just driving in Race mode one can feel how nervous the car becomes, higher shift points, lumpier idle. Also, find a stradale that under-performs on its brochure figueres: you won't. They all seem to over-perform. For sure these were little play things that someone in the Maserati factory was very happy to build, not quite letting on to big brother what was going on. I'll put mine on the dyno one day just to shut myself up!
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I read of a Stradale that has been on a rolling road and the output was 476bhp, from memory. That stands to reason as a blueprinted engine with a few software tweaks should have been capable of more than the 450bhp originally claimed. Also, the original Ferrari California was rated at 483bhp and we all know that brand positioning is very important and they wouldn't want them too close. My silver GS was running full Larinis, including cats and so should have been running more than the 395bhp claimed by the factory. There's no doubt that my Stradale was considerably faster, particularly in the mid-range and it felt more than a just a few horsepowers or torques, as Clarkson would say. Utterly unscientific, just what my experience of them is!
Couldn’t agree with you more - then again I would say that given that I bought one
I need this wet winter weather to be over so that I could enjoy the car more !
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Couldn’t agree with you more - then again I would say that given that I bought one
I need this wet winter weather to be over so that I could enjoy the car more !
Try a quiet roundabout in the rain for that special WRC feeling! I wish we had more rain here sometimes...
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Sounds like dry and wet resp. to me.
I think the Strad one makes sense but there is no way a GS is c1780kg wet given what the 4200 weighs. Mind it’s Maserati so anything is possible!
Just checked my original 4200 brochure and the CC is 1580 dry and 1680 wet. I think the data source you are using has confused the two.