Ewan, my friends who have the new RR only had problems (6k premiums) when they upgraded from the 2013-21 models. They live in Guildford and London so that is a big part of the problem. Residuals are crashing though, early cars that had the premium are now c100k less. A chap I know just p/ex'd his Tacan turbo S after 2 years this week and dropped 100k too so perhaps that's the norm for a lot of cars these days. I think I'll stick to zero depreciation cars from the 90s and 00s!!Not really. He just fails to explain the difference between the current/new ones, and the previous model. The new ones are not stolen, so insurance isn't a problem. It's (approximately) the ones from 2017-2021 that were being stolen (mainly from places such as London). But these are being upgraded for free from dealers, so it's not really such a big issue any more.
There's videos on YouTube interviewing the head of security from JLR that explain it better than I.
On related news, I have a new Range Rover Sport be delivered on Thursday for an extended test/loan. I've always had full-sized Rangies in the past (such as the one I have now), so it'll be interesting (for me at least) to see what I make of the Sport.
Agreed - location plays a big part when it comes to insurance details.Ewan, my friends who have the new RR only had problems (6k premiums) when they upgraded from the 2013-21 models. They live in Guildford and London so that is a big part of the problem. Residuals are crashing though, early cars that had the premium are now c100k less. A chap I know just p/ex'd his Tacan turbo S after 2 years this week and dropped 100k too so perhaps that's the norm for a lot of cars these days. I think I'll stick to zero depreciation cars from the 90s and 00s!!
This is quite interesting.
Sounds more PornTube than car theft.10 minutes in I suggest someone hasn't randomised their seeds properly. VAG did this a yew years back.
Apple fob things: I think these aren't great at theft tracking because they now notify iphones that remain in proximity for some duration of time that they are being tracked (for good anti-stalking reasons). What are you using and does it avoid the 'Apple issue'?I have a couple of (non-Apple) tracking fobs on stuff. They work well.
Sounds more PornTube than car theft.
Apple fob things: I think these aren't great at theft tracking because they now notify iphones that remain in proximity for some duration of time that they are being tracked (for good anti-stalking reasons). What are you using and does it avoid the 'Apple issue'?
It's an odd thing, the tracking. I sat next to someone on a flight in January who must have had airtags because for a while after landing (maybe 20 mins) I had a message on my phone saying [something like] I was being tracked by an AirTag. Which I wasn't. But if I was I could have made it beep, found it and thrown it away.Good point. Mine are generic from Amazon. Can't recall about the Apple notification bit, will have to go and google again!
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High sub fees on those, though.So the simple answer appears to be 'no'
But, there's some unclarity on how long a device needs to be with your phone before that alert gets triggered. Also it's not clear if the device can be turned off by someone that's not the owner (or what that turning off actually does) So probably not a perfect solution. Cheap and cheerful, though.
So good for cases and so on. Maybe not so good for cars
More robust would be a full GPS and SIM based solution.
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High sub fees on those, though.
I just got a quote from Howdens. The rate was ok, policy good... but they insist on a Cat 5 tracker, which is £200 per year. Hmph.
Yes, you can do that but not if someone has removed the speaker from it, which is a simple thing to do! And then it’s going to be a lot more difficult to find.It's an odd thing, the tracking. I sat next to someone on a flight in January who must have had airtags because for a while after landing (maybe 20 mins) I had a message on my phone saying [something like] I was being tracked by an AirTag. Which I wasn't. But if I was I could have made it beep, found it and thrown it away.