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outrun

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Lorry driver gets out and tells the cyclist to not go to the left of an Arctic? WTF? That applies when the arctic is turning left the daft ****!

Sorry but the driver of the truck should have made allowances he could see them at the lights. The cyclist was as bad as the driver though as he was clearly in the left lane but why would you as a driver accelerate towards the cyclist?

six of one, half a dozen of the other

Em, nope. The cyclist needs to be aware that the lorry has a blind spot and not ride in it. I cycle a lot and wouldn't have tried to out drag a lorry in those circumstances. The cyclist is an idiot.
 

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MrMickS

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They were both in the wrong to some extent. The lorry could see there were other cyclists there and, if he drives around there, should have anticipated that there were going to be others. The cyclists were in the wrong by trying to squeeze up the inside of a lorry. That's just stupid.

I used to cycle from one side of Bradford, through the city centre, and over to Leeds daily. Then for another job I used to cycle from Bradford to Skipton, including a stretch along a dual carriageway. After having been knocked off by a bright spark that overtook me and did a right turn, bang ... I think I can fly ... thud, I always cycled with the thought firmly in my mind everyone else was trying to kill me. So I cycled defensively. I always rode down the outside of stationary traffic, to do otherwise is crazy, someone could open a door FFS.

Everyone there has the wrong attitude. Its all about themselves and their priorities rather than being sensible about it and anticipating something bad.
 

conaero

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Lorry driver gets out and tells the cyclist to not go to the left of an Arctic? WTF? That applies when the arctic is turning left the daft ****!

Sorry but the driver of the truck should have made allowances he could see them at the lights. The cyclist was as bad as the driver though as he was clearly in the left lane but why would you as a driver accelerate towards the cyclist?

six of one, half a dozen of the other

You dont undertake Phil, the cyclists totally at fault and in the left turn lane only. Its hard for me to admit as I am keen cyclist but when I am on the road, I am aware I am the one who has to make allowances and concede. its just the way it is.
 

outrun

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You dont undertake Phil, the cyclists totally at fault and in the left turn lane only. Its hard for me to admit as I am keen cyclist but when I am on the road, I am aware I am the one who has to make allowances and concede. its just the way it is.

This :clap1:
 

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I agree you don't argue with a 20 tonne arctic at all and they should have sat behind the truck but the truck driver didn't do himself any favours.
 

conaero

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I agree you don't argue with a 20 tonne arctic at all and they should have sat behind the truck but the truck driver didn't do himself any favours.

Possibly not but you can see how they must get cheesed off with this, it must happen all the time.
 

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I totally agree the cyclist was stupied to do this but what if he died and it went to court, what would the law say? As the surviving party the lorry driver would no doubt be partially blamed, lose his licence, job and possibly a suspended custodial sentence. All due to the person who thinks it's right to use the wrong lane and take the risk.
 

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I totally agree the cyclist was stupied to do this but what if he died and it went to court, what would the law say? As the surviving party the lorry driver would no doubt be partially blamed, lose his licence, job and possibly a suspended custodial sentence. All due to the person who thinks it's right to use the wrong lane and take the risk.

Totally agree, my parents neighbour used to be an intercity train driver, he had a jumper one day and he never got over it, he went back on freight for a few weeks but just couldn't handle it.

Driving in London several times most weeks I can never get over the arrogance of the cyclists almost to a whole, it is an exception if one actually stops at a light for the duration of the change. I had one today coming down to Hackney, I had passed as I came up to traffic I stopped early to let two pedestrians cross in front of me the first made the pavement, the cyclist would have seen her but did not slow in the slightest as he undertook me and had I not bibbed the second would have been lofted by the bike! No insurance is there...
 

Kiwi Graham

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Lorry driver gets out and tells the cyclist to not go to the left of an Arctic? WTF? That applies when the arctic is turning left the daft ****!

Sorry but the driver of the truck should have made allowances he could see them at the lights. The cyclist was as bad as the driver though as he was clearly in the left lane but why would you as a driver accelerate towards the cyclist?

six of one, half a dozen of the other

They were both in the wrong to some extent. The lorry could see there were other cyclists there and, if he drives around there, should have anticipated that there were going to be others. The cyclists were in the wrong by trying to squeeze up the inside of a lorry. That's just stupid.

I used to cycle from one side of Bradford, through the city centre, and over to Leeds daily. Then for another job I used to cycle from Bradford to Skipton, including a stretch along a dual carriageway. After having been knocked off by a bright spark that overtook me and did a right turn, bang ... I think I can fly ... thud, I always cycled with the thought firmly in my mind everyone else was trying to kill me. So I cycled defensively. I always rode down the outside of stationary traffic, to do otherwise is crazy, someone could open a door FFS.

Everyone there has the wrong attitude. Its all about themselves and their priorities rather than being sensible about it and anticipating something bad.

The cyclists are absolutely in the wrong.
They were all in a turn left only lane, the truck was in a straight ahead lane.
The truck went straight ahead, the cyclists failed to turn left.

These cyclist are bloody stupid and to add to there stupidity they publish the video proving their stupidity.
 

rockits

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I think some cyclist are good, aware and not stupid. However many are not. It must be a nightmare for lorry drivers. I drive into London occasionally and find it hard enough to look out and keep an eye out for motkrobikes and cyclist coming up both sides in and out of traffic. It is really hard to make sure you don't miss one. For a lorry it must be impossible. I can see why they get upset as if they killed a cyclist even if not there fault it is hardly a nice thing to happen.

That cyclist obviously doesn't value his life very much. I certainly would not drive up that close to a massive lorry knowing it is possible he has no idea I'm there.

Maybe cyclists should start paying insurance at least as it is getting a bit ridiculous. Too many are running red lights, driving on pavements, dismounting to a pavement then remounting. Everyone is in so much of a bloody hurry. Why doesn't everyone just slow down and calm down a bit. What's the rush?

The rules, regulations or highway code needs to be updated a bit me thinks.
 

D Walker

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I am a keen cyclist and wont take sides, there is good and bad on all sides of the fence.
I'm with Matt, I always ride defensive and keep my options open. I wave cars past if I can see road clear if I am holding them up.
i've plenty of stories to tell of drivers deliberately trying to impede / obstruct me but as I am also a driver I too get annoyed when i come up behind a group 4 abreast having a chat....

Just remember -----thats a human on a bike-------
 

Wack61

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Too many are running red lights, driving on pavements, dismounting to a pavement then remounting. Everyone is in so much of a bloody hurry. Why doesn't everyone just slow down and calm down a bit. What's the rush?

It's London, everybody is in a rush ,the helmet cam is their cloak of invincibility, as they're bleeding out under a 44t truck you'll hear but but I've got it on camera
 

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I am a keen cyclist and wont take sides, there is good and bad on all sides of the fence.
I'm with Matt, I always ride defensive and keep my options open. I wave cars past if I can see road clear if I am holding them up.
i've plenty of stories to tell of drivers deliberately trying to impede / obstruct me but as I am also a driver I too get annoyed when i come up behind a group 4 abreast having a chat....

Just remember -----thats a human on a bike-------
Well said with all of that.

I think there's a lot of need to educate all sides of traffic. It also does generally result from being in too much hurry.

I'm very grateful as a driver that I'm a cyclist and so realise their position, but also vice versa.
 

RSM Masser

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The cyclist rides into the side of the truck and its the cyclist that leaves the scene.

What a numpty. Cycle in the wrong lane in the blind spot of a 40ft truck and then wonder why it hurts when you cycle into it.

Nice to see the cyclists using the pavement as well as the wrong lanes as there own private road. Its ok though because its London. Highway code means nothing to some people.

Living (almost) and working in London this is a situation we see and hear about almost everyday, the ever busy Bank interchange in The City has now been closed to cars and lorries due to the number of 'accidents' with cyclists - still open to buses, it has caused traffic chaos in the area some roads are just an endless queue of busses, a van, more busses, a lorry, several more busses, another van and even more busses.

Tooley St - before it was closed one way was a haven for lycra clad idiots, head down, ar4se up Tour-de-France style travelling considerably faster than the crawl of 4 wheel traffic, jumping red lights, swerving in and out of lanes and generally thinking they own the road.

Personally whilst I feel sorry for the genuine accidents cyclists have, I have witnessed the idiocy of some who for some reason think and act as if they are invincible against a 44 ton truck or even a car.

In this case the cyclists are wrong, some jumped the lights as they balance on the pedals desperate to make up the extra 2 feet, all are in a left turn only lane - imagine the uproar if it was a Porsche out dragging the truck to gain a few car lengths.

A lucky escape and one that seems to be in the truck drivers (rightly) favour, based on public opinion of You Tube / Facebook and Sports Maserati
 

Jkulin

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Lorry driver gets out and tells the cyclist to not go to the left of an Arctic? WTF? That applies when the arctic is turning left the daft ****!

Sorry but the driver of the truck should have made allowances he could see them at the lights. The cyclist was as bad as the driver though as he was clearly in the left lane but why would you as a driver accelerate towards the cyclist?

six of one, half a dozen of the other

Sorry Phil but the Cyclist was a complete t0sser, I am/was a cyclist and only kn0bs try to play with an artic, the driver was in the right as the cyclists were in his blind spot, it was obvious that the cyclists was trying to undercut the artic.

I've ridden in London and see so many appalling idiots on bikes which just winds up the car drivers.

Don't get me wrong I've got into some right arguments with car drivers when out on my bike, but in this instance they were wrong!
 

conaero

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The mentality of cyclists in London (and other cities no doubt) is to prove to motorised vehicles that they are superior and quicker point to point.

The ones that play this game to prove this to themselves ultimately get maimed or killed.

Is it worth it trying to prove a point?
 

MrPea

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The mentality of cyclists in London (and other cities no doubt) is to prove to motorised vehicles that they are superior and quicker point to point.

The ones that play this game to prove this to themselves ultimately get maimed or killed.

Is it worth it trying to prove a point?
Only to myself!
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