Cars and penises. Bad news

GeoffCapes

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A fair point. Since you ask, I guess it is about three things: vulnerable classes & level of oppression, plus, yes, whataboutism.

Making a general claim (scientific or otherwise) that a group of men with a particular (invisible) characteristic may sightly prefer a certain type of car is both a broad 'attack' on a class of people who are, relative to the non-mentioned class 'privileged', and not typically oppressed, and quite a mild 'attack' on an invisible characteristic. But to mention that an overweight woman is unhealthy is a specific and personal attack on a visible characteristic of someone who is, relative to the non-mentioned class 'less privileged'.

But what is more concerning is how common it is that when someone says 'people of type A are generally X' where A is privileged and X is negative, it prompts people of type A to respond, "Ah yes, but what about, 'people of type B are generally Y', where B is less privileged and Y is a worse criticism. Conversely if someone says 'people of type B need 1' where B is less privileged and 1 is good, it prompts people of type A to respond, "Ah yes, but why don't people of type A get more 1"? And this kind of faux-victimhood is very damaging to any attempt to improve the status of less-privileged classes.

And additionally, this sort of whataboutism is usually accompanied by 'but I'm not allowed to says this.' Actually you are allowed to say it, and people do all the time. But it does mean that occasionally a virtuous, pious, priggish keyboard-warrior nerd like me will feel the need to challenge it. At length.

In response to your comments.

Are you not generalising about the class of person (with regards to fast car) as both cheap and expensive cars can be fast.
No one mentioned privilege until you did. Is it not fair that you are the one generalising that fast car = privilege? When this is baseless, or rather your perception?
Who is to say that all classes of people are not in some way oppressed? (this is a subject for another day).
If the 'attack' is mild, why has this been a perception (true or otherwise) for decades? Surely any kind of attack for this length of time can hardly be perceive as mild?

Your other points.

Using an overweight woman as an example, isn't really an attack, more of a statement of fact. It can't be an attack if you are simply stating facts. Or does that mean we invoke 'snowflakes' (another subject for another day).

Privilege is a perception (IMHO), however, these perceptions (again IMHO) are generally generalisations based upon how someone feels about their own (perceived) social status.
The short way of describing this without getting into your rather bad formulaic algebra is "some people will always have something to moan about".
 

GeoffCapes

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It's not an aspersion. It's a scientific study. A research paper.

I detect some sensitivity...

This is the 'science'.

https://psyarxiv.com/uy7ph/

It makes for some interesting reading, however, like all statistics, they can be 'skewed' to read however you want them to be read.

Regardless of penis size I'm sure most men over 40 who are financially better off would like a sports car.
When in my 20, I'd have loved a Ferrari but couldn't afford one (can't now), so the allure was there but the desire probably less so.
I was more interested in beer football and women.

As for sensitivity. Not at all. I came to accept that with a 3 inch penis, I will never be as big a knob as some on here.
 

Felonious Crud

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This is the 'science'.

https://psyarxiv.com/uy7ph/

It makes for some interesting reading, however, like all statistics, they can be 'skewed' to read however you want them to be read.

Regardless of penis size I'm sure most men over 40 who are financially better off would like a sports car.
When in my 20, I'd have loved a Ferrari but couldn't afford one (can't now), so the allure was there but the desire probably less so.
I was more interested in beer football and women.

As for sensitivity. Not at all. I came to accept that with a 3 inch penis, I will never be as big a knob as some on here.
Cuss you, Capes! This thread was drifting nicely into the music of dubious bands. And now it's drifted into the contents of dubious pants.
 

Swedish Paul

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This is the 'science'.

https://psyarxiv.com/uy7ph/

It makes for some interesting reading, however, like all statistics, they can be 'skewed' to read however you want them to be read.

Regardless of penis size I'm sure most men over 40 who are financially better off would like a sports car.
When in my 20, I'd have loved a Ferrari but couldn't afford one (can't now), so the allure was there but the desire probably less so.
I was more interested in beer football and women.

As for sensitivity. Not at all. I came to accept that with a 3 inch penis, I will never be as big a knob as some on here.
Diameter?
 

Nayf

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A few years ago I tuned into Glastonbury for the first time in years - I’d lost interest since it went a bit BBC Radio One roadshow x virtue signalling (with generators and helicopters). Then I saw Pendulum headlining.
Only a few years earlier I’d seen them above a snooker hall above the (very remote) market town of March, Cambridgeshire…
 

Oneball

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Michael Eavis has done masses for Pilton, the local area and Somerset in general. He started it off by taking in a bunch of people that no one else would give five minutes of their day for. Yes it’s become fashionable and it isn’t any longer my Ms and some friends painting a few signs and nailing pallets together in exchange for a bit of music. You’ll still find him down the Club on a Saturday night listening to a local teen band playing their first gig because he likes music and he won’t be “signalling” anything.
 

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I went to Glastonbury CND festival as it was called in 1982, £19.95 the ticket for 3 days. Jackson Browne, Van Morrison, Sad Cafe were some of the acts, what I can remember. Paul Young the lead singer with Sad Cafe died young, he sang vocals on a few Mike & the Mechanics later through the 80s.
A heavy weekend man.
 

GTVGEOFF

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A few years ago I tuned into Glastonbury for the first time in years - I’d lost interest since it went a bit BBC Radio One roadshow x virtue signalling (with generators and helicopters). Then I saw Pendulum headlining.
Only a few years earlier I’d seen them above a snooker hall above the (very remote) market town of March, Cambridgeshire…
You went to the snooker Hall in March and got out alive :oops: WOW! Respect.
 

DLax69

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I remember putting an electric aerial on one of the pieces of S**t I owned in my teens, I thought it looked real snazzy at the time as it worked every time I turned the radio on and off. Makes me cringe thinking about it now.
That folks is the reason you shouldn't get the vote till your 30 at least. lol
...the fact you also had an 8-track player in that car is worse.