Thoughts on 2010 RR Sport 5.0 S/C

ofenomeno99

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Gentlemen - I'm in need of a big car and was planning to get back into a Maserati but unfortunately will have to postpone that a few months yet.

I decided that I want a 2010 RR Sport 5.0 S/C, however, one thing for certain is that I want to buy one off of a private seller.

I found one in the exact same specs that I want, with full main dealer history and looks very tidy. The only thing is it's 1000 miles shy of the 100,000 mile mark.

My questions - would that put you off if you were using it for a maximum of 3,000 miles a year. And if it just had a service at LR a couple of weeks ago and had a health check with everything checking out OK would you take comfort in that?

Price wise, he's £1000 over what I think I would like to pay. Is £13,500 a decent amount to pay for it?

Thanks a lot!
 

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Andy (Zagatoes) has one I believe. Sure he will be along.
 
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JonW

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That kind of mileage wouldn’t put me off at all - if the condition and service history was solid.
 

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Andy and I both have s/c Range Rovers, but the proper big ones, not the RR Sport version. Sorry.

But there are plenty of 100k mile RR and RR Sports out there, so the mileage wouldn't bother me as long as the rest of the car was fine. I've had mine 10 years and it's now up to about 85k miles and still runs perfectly.
 

ofenomeno99

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Thanks Ewan! If the vehicle health check from LR came back with everything green, would you rely on it or would you want to have your own independent PPI?
 

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As Ewan says I have the same full fat Range Rover 5.0 S/C, as long as the engine has been maintained well 100k wouldn't worry me, when was the SC belt last changed mine was done just before I bought it with 64k on the clocks and it now has 73 and it has been superb throughout. The engine is awesome happy to pootle about on tick over fully loaded or scream like a banshee at maximum revs when the it moves much faster than its bulk would suggest. I have seen averages of 24mpg on a run at best and as low 14mpg with 1800kilos of road blocker hooked to its ar5e.

Mine had impeccible LR service history and every bill, it was owned be a fastidious owner who would spend as soon as an issue arose, I spoke to the service manager at the dealer that maintained it and he took me through the automatic electric side step issue. Apparently they moved in and out to slow for the owner and he had them oil and service them mumerous times to improve it, eventually he had them fit a complete new set at the cost of £3k and then 4 weeks later traded it in against a brand new version with them. Needless to say step movement speed is not an issue.

I didn't have a PPI on mine but I have out it on a decent warranty just in case but have only had to claim for a rear hub replacement so far.

10 Plate RR Sport is based on the Discovery 3 chassis rather than the RR chassis that ours are on but from what I understand that is a benefit as its a much later design.
 
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ofenomeno99

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As Ewan says I have the same full fat Range Rover 5.0 S/C, as long as the engine has been maintained well 100k wouldn't worry me, when was the SC last changed mine was done just before I bought it with 64k on the clocks and it now has 73 and it has been superb throughout. The engine is awesome happy to pootle about on tick over fully loaded or scream like a banshee at maximum revs when the it moves much faster than its bulk would suggest. I have seen averages of 24mpg on a run at best and as low 14mpg with 1800kilos of road blocker hooked to its ar5e.

Mine had impeccible LR service history and every bill, it was owned be a fastidious owner who would spend as soon as an issue arose, I spoke to the service nager at the dealer that maintained it and he took me through the automatic electric side step issue. Apparently they moved in and out to slow for the owner and he had them oil and service them mumerous times to improve it, eventually he had them fit a complete new set at the cost of £3k and then 4 weeks later traded it in against a brand new version with them. Needless to say step movement speed is not an issue.

I didn't have a PPI on mine but I have out it on a decent warranty just in case but have only had to claim for a rear hub replacement so far.

10 Plate RR Sport is based on the Discovery 3 chassis rather than the RR chassis that ours are on but from what I understand that is a benefit as its a much later design.

Thanks for the detailed response - exactly what I was hoping to hear. What warranty do you use? As I was reading that aftermarket warranties are pretty much useless.

Does yours do 24 mpg on a run driving at 70 mph?
 

zagatoes30

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Thanks for the detailed response - exactly what I was hoping to hear. What warranty do you use? As I was reading that aftermarket warranties are pretty much useless.

Depends on the warranty, we had a Warranty Direct policy on a previous RR, they paid out just over £15k in 2 years (it was one of the notoriously bad early L322 models). The current one is with WarrnatyWise, mainly as they would cover the air suspension where WarrantyDirect would not - We have only had one claim where they replaced the rear caliper and hub assembly which had started to stick without question.

Does yours do 24 mpg on a run driving at 70 mph?

24MPG was driving from Silverstone to Hollyhead at around 70mph, motorway runs are often over 20 but 24 was the best. It has averaged 19.1 since we have had it but if you open up the supercharger it can drop very quickly - instant MPG reading would give the Green party a heart attack.
 
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Ewan

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Over my 10 years and 70k miles of ownership I’ve averaged 16.2mpg (according to the on board computer).
 

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Over my 10 years and 70k miles of ownership I’ve averaged 16.2mpg (according to the on board computer).
Ewan, on the bases my computer is 3-4 mpg (15%) optimistic, that's probably a realistic 14 mpg. At 7k per annum, no problem but I do 30k per annum in mine so I think I'll go for another TDV8 next time too! I'd also be refueling twice per week.
 

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Over my 10 years and 70k miles of ownership I’ve averaged 16.2mpg (according to the on board computer).

Have you never zeroed your trip computer? Or did you buy from brand new and it shows the overall average for the car?
 

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Jon - on one setting I've left it from collection, to give me the lifetime average. There is another setting that allows for re-setting whenever required. So while it's possible, being very careful, to average in the low twenties for specific journeys, the realistic average over whole ownership is a little more sobering.
 

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Jon - on one setting I've left it from collection, to give me the lifetime average. There is another setting that allows for re-setting whenever required. So while it's possible, being very careful, to average in the low twenties for specific journeys, the realistic average over whole ownership is a little more sobering.

Very organised Ewan!

I’m not surprised by the fuel consumption... it’s a very big, supercharged engine pulling a heavy car that lends itself to being driven vigorously... the only real surprise is that it’s not a bit lower!
 

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Thanks for the replies - mpg is not bad at all for a car that probably won't do 3,000 miles during the year.

The gentleman wants 14,500 for it and on autotrader it says that a private sale should be expecting 13,300 and I offered him 13,750 but he said that it was too low and that we would need to meet somewhere in the middle.

Should I stick to my guns with the offer or meet him in the middle?

I don't know why but I don't think there would be many people at the moment looking at an 8 year old 5.0 litre car sold privately.
 

zagatoes30

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Jon - on one setting I've left it from collection, to give me the lifetime average. There is another setting that allows for re-setting whenever required. So while it's possible, being very careful, to average in the low twenties for specific journeys, the realistic average over whole ownership is a little more sobering.

I do the same and agree low 20s is fine but when the fun starts the numbers drop. These days mine mostly does 2 60 mile motorways runs a week to and from the airport and it has helped pushed the average up, although a month in Ireland has had the opposite effect
 
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JonW

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I had already had a little look on Autotrader when I first saw this thread, and thought that might be the car.

My personal view is £14k is a good price to pay for that... there’s very little else at that kind of money, and if it has been maintained as well as it says, then I reckon that’s a bargain / fair price.

However, I suspect you’re right that there probably isn’t a steady stream of people knocking at his door, so depends how hard you want to bargain. The question I would be asking myself is can I find another one for less or the same money...
 

zagatoes30

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The gentleman wants 14,500 for it and on autotrader it says that a private sale should be expecting 13,300 and I offered him 13,750 but he said that it was too low and that we would need to meet somewhere in the middle.

Should I stick to my guns with the offer or meet him in the middle?

I don't know why but I don't think there would be many people at the moment looking at an 8 year old 5.0 litre car sold privately.

I would say there are not many who want to buy a S/C RR but then again there are not many. The dealer that had mine was surprised how long it took him to shift it, he said it was the hardest ever and he wouldn't take in another. He told me most of this before I made him an offer which was handy as I then made a really silly offer and he bit my hand off.

I suspect it will be hard to sell when the time comes but at the moment I have no plans to do so. If it stays reliable I can see me holding on to it for some time.
 

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Right at the end of the line for the old shape with new shape RRS coming down in price. Tell him 13500 is a bargain. Not many are going to want an 8 year old RRS 5.0 SC petrol with 100k on the clock privately.