Residuals

iainw

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I have been investigating the MC cabrio centennial vs Ferraris of similar cost.
Maserati have made it impossible for me to purchase due to offering a 36% residual vs 55% on a Ferrari..
Is this experience shared?
 

azapa

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Ian. I looked at a lovely 348 GTS about two months ago, it was immaculate and about the same price, or a little cheaper than the stradale. http://auto.ferrari.com/en_EN/sports-cars-models/past-models/348-gts/

It drove like and old car. The performance wanting, the brakes weak, the gear change baulky. The point I am trying to make is you have to settle for a worse experience, drive wise, for the similar cash. To get stradale performance in a F car you would probably have to spend double? (the last bit, a guess). If you don't care about driving, the F car will be a better investment in the same price range.
 

iainw

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The ones I am looking at are 2010 or newer so certianly on a par with the modern age Maserati's.
Even the Calis are .4 to 60 quicker on paper than even a strad. I think the strads sound amazing however and are the best looking cars on the road IMO. I need a convertible though. The Cali is faster than. A centennial strad, stronger residuals and cheaper. I need a reason to stay with maserati
 

iainw

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Ian. I looked at a lovely 348 GTS about two months ago, it was immaculate and about the same price, or a little cheaper than the stradale. http://auto.ferrari.com/en_EN/sports-cars-models/past-models/348-gts/

It drove like and old car. The performance wanting, the brakes weak, the gear change baulky. The point I am trying to make is you have to settle for a worse experience, drive wise, for the similar cash. To get stradale performance in a F car you would probably have to spend double? (the last bit, a guess). If you don't care about driving, the F car will be a better investment in the same price range.


I think the price gap in the U.K. Is much closer than chile it seems. I wouldn't dream of a 348,355,360 or even a 430 age wise. They would look and feel vv old
 

azapa

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A california is 100K+ here. a Strad 75K (GB pounds, aprox). What F car can you get for <75K that feels modern, in the UK?
BTW if the money made sense I would have no problems with a Ferrari, top brand, and happy to leave the maserati for one!
 

Rwc13

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The ones I am looking at are 2010 or newer so certianly on a par with the modern age Maserati's.
Even the Calis are .4 to 60 quicker on paper than even a strad. I think the strads sound amazing however and are the best looking cars on the road IMO. I need a convertible though. The Cali is faster than. A centennial strad, stronger residuals and cheaper. I need a reason to stay with maserati í*½í¸ž

Because you'll look cool driving a Stradale, but a bit of a dick driving a California?


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allandwf

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Ian. I looked at a lovely 348 GTS about two months ago, it was immaculate and about the same price, or a little cheaper than the stradale. http://auto.ferrari.com/en_EN/sports-cars-models/past-models/348-gts/

It drove like and old car. The performance wanting, the brakes weak, the gear change baulky. The point I am trying to make is you have to settle for a worse experience, drive wise, for the similar cash. To get stradale performance in a F car you would probably have to spend double? (the last bit, a guess). If you don't care about driving, the F car will be a better investment in the same price range.
I have always wanted a 348, and almost bought one prior to buying the AC, money wise it would have been the better bet over the 5 years I have had the AC. The drive however, as you say, is very old fashioned, the AC the better but newer car. It depends what you want out of the car I suppose.
 

GeoffCapes

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If I had the cash. I'd buy a 355 spider, but a manual box, that way it would be a totally different driving experience, and therefore not comparable.
However, that's another boat I've missed.
 

Swedish Paul

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Bubble. Bubble. Bubble. Happened before, happening now. Once the rates rise (and the world war with Russia/Syria/Norge Korea/delete as appropriate) gen things will neutralize. It's funny living here in Sweden, I saw a ford capri for 5k today, and you can buy 348 s for well under 50k.

Patience.
 

D Walker

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Bubble. Bubble. Bubble. Happened before, happening now. Once the rates rise (and the world war with Russia/Syria/Norge Korea/delete as appropriate) gen things will neutralize. It's funny living here in Sweden, I saw a ford capri for 5k today, and you can buy 348 s for well under 50k.

Patience.

Best hope your prediction is wrong because cars wont be worth anything at all.....!!!!! There will not be another "conventional" world war !!!
 

iainw

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Because you'll look cool driving a Stradale, but a bit of a dick driving a California?


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It would need to be a consensus view rather than the opinion of one who seems to be bitter about something.

At least we can agree on one thing- people who drive stradales look cool! Imo they are the best looking cars on the road bar none.
 

D Walker

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It would need to be a consensus view rather than the opinion of one who seems to be bitter about something.

At least we can agree on one thing- people who drive stradales look cool! Imo they are the best looking cars on the road bar none.

So you need a Gran Cabrio Strad - is there such a thing, if not buy a Gran Cab and strad it too the max!!!!
 

iainw

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Agreed. I can't work out how they drive compared to a strad- I know there are only 2 or 3 people on here who have them and would be v pleased to hear from them.
I think I need to go to dick lovetts on Tuesday and drive the Strad and Cali back to back and wait for an MC cabrio to turn up nearby!
Tried to call Andy K to see if he was up for a trip ( if he has finished drooling over the lovely looking black F type!)
 

O37

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Not MC prices but self explanatory plot of Grancab sport prices over the past 3 years. If residuals were my main concern, especially with MC cabs starting at 77K (private), I'd consider a 2013 face lifted sport, same power (ok 10hp in it!) but 17K less to depreciate! Doubt I'd feel the difference on 90% roads. I can assure you that after the brief drive tonight the last thing on anyone's mind would be residuals ;)


grancab sport prices.jpg
 

O37

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You know the answer :) ...apologies to everyone in upton-upon-seven tonight, a market town with a narrow high street with tall brick buildings!

The real problem with residuals is usage and mileage, there is definitely a correlation with the louder the noise the more the miles, especially with no roof... :)