Quattroporte Vs Listed For Sale

Ebenezer

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Black mesh is 4.2 GT S (@MarkMas will advise on the correct spacing if necessary!)

Silver mesh is 4.2 Executive GT

Chrome horizontal slats is Classic 4.2 (You read it here first!)

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Slats:- 4.2 they're black, 4.7 S theyre chrome, GTS are concave black

Post-facelift
4.2 convex vertical black
4.7 S convex vertical chrome
GT S concave vertical black

But bear in mind they are interchangeable, so may have been swapped. (My S now has the GT S grille)
 

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VX09FLD, @MarkMas's old car is up at auction again at Hobbs Parker. Opening bid of £9,700 plus fees, no reserve

"Trade entered vehicle - Current registered owner since 2016, five previous keepers. Last seviced at Ferrari and Maserati specialist in January 2019 at 66,191 miles. 6 service stamps in total. Air con, Sat Nav, Leather.

Sold as Seen - Grade 3

3 x Wheel refurb.
Passenger side chips, scratches and scuffs.
Drivers side minor scratches and scuffs.
Bonnet minor scratches.
Front bumper minor chips and scratches.
Rear bumper minor scratches and scuffs.
Rear tyres 3mm or less.
Passenger door mirror minor scuff.
See photos for damage/scuffs."


Bidding ends at 4:10pm
 

MarkMas

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VX09FLD, @MarkMas's old car is up at auction again at Hobbs Parker. Opening bid of £9,700 plus fees, no reserve

"Trade entered vehicle - Current registered owner since 2016, five previous keepers. Last seviced at Ferrari and Maserati specialist in January 2019 at 66,191 miles. 6 service stamps in total. Air con, Sat Nav, Leather.

Sold as Seen - Grade 3

3 x Wheel refurb.
Passenger side chips, scratches and scuffs.
Drivers side minor scratches and scuffs.
Bonnet minor scratches.
Front bumper minor chips and scratches.
Rear bumper minor scratches and scuffs.
Rear tyres 3mm or less.
Passenger door mirror minor scuff.
See photos for damage/scuffs."


Bidding ends at 4:10pm

As if scuffs and scratches is what matters when buying a Maserati that is more than 10 years old.
 

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My condolences on your loss - but as you say, what a fitting tribute your new QP played in the proceedings.

That is an incredible driveway lineup. As someone that's positively taken by the 612 (and not as yet drive one), I'd be very curious to hear your compare/contrast of both vehicles...
Thanks very much. I wanted to drive them both for a little while to better compare and contrast before responding.
My first QPV GTS was initially a daily but then became a weekend toy. This one shares daily duties with other cars and for me that is where I enjoy it the most. Regular use but not every day for the boring stuff where it loses that special feeling and where Range Rovers come into their own. I love the way it can be a relaxing saloon but the lovely balance from the front mid engine layout allows you to attack a twisting road with confidence when in the mood. When you explore the upper reaches of the rev counter it is pretty quick and it does make a sound beyond any other fast saloon. It comfortably seats 4 adults and is a nice place to be.
The 612 for me is really a 3 seater as only small children can travel behind my 6'1" frame. The interior is really in a different league; thick crema leather that still smells new 13 years on. Not important but the Bose is much higher spec than the QP version - but then it was a £10k option! There is certainly more of an occasion travelling in the 612 but it does not draw attention even as much as the Strad did nor certainly a Rosso 360/430/458 etc. Whilst the QPV feels fast enough but needs winding up, the 612 is ballistic from very low revs and could quickly help you out of your license if you push it for any time in the top 3 ratios! I prefer the robotised manual to the ZF box and I suspect Ferrari have sole use of the best software from Marelli as it is a noticeable improvement over both Strad and MC Shift GTS boxes that preceded it. Like the QPV, the 612 motor is mounted well behind the front axle so it also bounds down the road beautifully once on the twisty stuff. The steering really is sublime and in the flesh the quality of a hand built car costing north of £200k can be appreciated. During the first 6 months, I have covered about 4000 miles so the horrendous fuel consumption hasn't really been an issue. With Super unleaded at £1.65/l I wouldn't want to be putting £150 in every 300 miles too often! Being a later model, my 612 has the sports exhaust as standard, which makes a much better sound. It sounds better outside than in so on balance I think Maserati's exhaust sound department does a better job. Of course, they both sound vastly better than the current crop with turbos and particulate filters.
In summary, I love them both and look forward to driving them in equal measure, especially if they have not been out for a couple of weeks!
PS. Both running Michelins, which seem a step up from the PZeros and both have red calipers but I do hanker yellows. I'll get my coat.....
 

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Thanks very much. I wanted to drive them both for a little while to better compare and contrast before responding.
My first QPV GTS was initially a daily but then became a weekend toy. This one shares daily duties with other cars and for me that is where I enjoy it the most. Regular use but not every day for the boring stuff where it loses that special feeling and where Range Rovers come into their own. I love the way it can be a relaxing saloon but the lovely balance from the front mid engine layout allows you to attack a twisting road with confidence when in the mood. When you explore the upper reaches of the rev counter it is pretty quick and it does make a sound beyond any other fast saloon. It comfortably seats 4 adults and is a nice place to be.
The 612 for me is really a 3 seater as only small children can travel behind my 6'1" frame. The interior is really in a different league; thick crema leather that still smells new 13 years on. Not important but the Bose is much higher spec than the QP version - but then it was a £10k option! There is certainly more of an occasion travelling in the 612 but it does not draw attention even as much as the Strad did nor certainly a Rosso 360/430/458 etc. Whilst the QPV feels fast enough but needs winding up, the 612 is ballistic from very low revs and could quickly help you out of your license if you push it for any time in the top 3 ratios! I prefer the robotised manual to the ZF box and I suspect Ferrari have sole use of the best software from Marelli as it is a noticeable improvement over both Strad and MC Shift GTS boxes that preceded it. Like the QPV, the 612 motor is mounted well behind the front axle so it also bounds down the road beautifully once on the twisty stuff. The steering really is sublime and in the flesh the quality of a hand built car costing north of £200k can be appreciated. During the first 6 months, I have covered about 4000 miles so the horrendous fuel consumption hasn't really been an issue. With Super unleaded at £1.65/l I wouldn't want to be putting £150 in every 300 miles too often! Being a later model, my 612 has the sports exhaust as standard, which makes a much better sound. It sounds better outside than in so on balance I think Maserati's exhaust sound department does a better job. Of course, they both sound vastly better than the current crop with turbos and particulate filters.
In summary, I love them both and look forward to driving them in equal measure, especially if they have not been out for a couple of weeks!
PS. Both running Michelins, which seem a step up from the PZeros and both have red calipers but I do hanker yellows. I'll get my coat.....
Really enjoyed reading this... for me part of the appeal of a 612 is it's understated presence, sometimes its nice to fly under the radar. I can imagine its a lovely place to be inside, having recently sat in a well-appointed 575 from a similar era... very nice place to be. Coming from a GS I sense that the same philosophy can be applied around the Mazzer vs. Fezza iterations of the robotised manual. I'm curious if the 612 has an 'auto' mode and if so is it terrible to use like it is in my GS (and thus remains permanently in manual)...
 
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Thanks very much. I wanted to drive them both for a little while to better compare and contrast before responding.
My first QPV GTS was initially a daily but then became a weekend toy. This one shares daily duties with other cars and for me that is where I enjoy it the most. Regular use but not every day for the boring stuff where it loses that special feeling and where Range Rovers come into their own. I love the way it can be a relaxing saloon but the lovely balance from the front mid engine layout allows you to attack a twisting road with confidence when in the mood. When you explore the upper reaches of the rev counter it is pretty quick and it does make a sound beyond any other fast saloon. It comfortably seats 4 adults and is a nice place to be.
The 612 for me is really a 3 seater as only small children can travel behind my 6'1" frame. The interior is really in a different league; thick crema leather that still smells new 13 years on. Not important but the Bose is much higher spec than the QP version - but then it was a £10k option! There is certainly more of an occasion travelling in the 612 but it does not draw attention even as much as the Strad did nor certainly a Rosso 360/430/458 etc. Whilst the QPV feels fast enough but needs winding up, the 612 is ballistic from very low revs and could quickly help you out of your license if you push it for any time in the top 3 ratios! I prefer the robotised manual to the ZF box and I suspect Ferrari have sole use of the best software from Marelli as it is a noticeable improvement over both Strad and MC Shift GTS boxes that preceded it. Like the QPV, the 612 motor is mounted well behind the front axle so it also bounds down the road beautifully once on the twisty stuff. The steering really is sublime and in the flesh the quality of a hand built car costing north of £200k can be appreciated. During the first 6 months, I have covered about 4000 miles so the horrendous fuel consumption hasn't really been an issue. With Super unleaded at £1.65/l I wouldn't want to be putting £150 in every 300 miles too often! Being a later model, my 612 has the sports exhaust as standard, which makes a much better sound. It sounds better outside than in so on balance I think Maserati's exhaust sound department does a better job. Of course, they both sound vastly better than the current crop with turbos and particulate filters.
In summary, I love them both and look forward to driving them in equal measure, especially if they have not been out for a couple of weeks!
PS. Both running Michelins, which seem a step up from the PZeros and both have red calipers but I do hanker yellows. I'll get my coat.....
You will only need your coat to drop the calipers off at the paint shop.
 
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Sorry for the delay on the obligatory photo but my new QP's first duties were as a funeral car so I have been distracted. After nearly 88 years of a great life my father passed away. As a petrol head himself, he will have appreciated me driving my mother there in the Maserati! He probably would have been happier were it on his old BSA Gold Star DBD34 but somehow doubt my mother would! View attachment 92084View attachment 92085View attachment 92086
Caught up on this, beautiful cars, enjoy.
Condolences on your father.
 
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Sorry for the delay on the obligatory photo but my new QP's first duties were as a funeral car so I have been distracted. After nearly 88 years of a great life my father passed away. As a petrol head himself, he will have appreciated me driving my mother there in the Maserati! He probably would have been happier were it on his old BSA Gold Star DBD34 but somehow doubt my mother would! View attachment 92084View attachment 92085View attachment 92086
Belated commiserations hearing about your father.
My own black QP V was used for the same purpose. While at funeral directors making the arrangements the nice chap noticed my car parked outside and sheepishly asked if we wanted to include their limousine. he gracefully responded "of course not, sir"
Maybe slightly macabre, but these really are cars for every occasion. The rear of mine takes three people or mountain bike or four 20" tyres. Well. past the Ikea stage so no need to test flat pack capability
 
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Buy cheap...

2005, 4.2 91k miles, RRZ 6488, MOT til Sep 2022, £5,850

Comes with a spare, unfitted, Larini X-pipe

Bad bits that the owner admits:

1. Few lights on the dashboard which are related. Probably the wheel speed sensor - suspension control, ABS, MSP, ASR,
Was told and read on forums quite a common issue on these due to a wheel speed sensor and never bothered me.

2. Paint Work not so great drivers side, not really visible in photos - Mainly Lacquer issues on:
  • drivers side front wing,
  • drivers door,
  • drivers rear quarter
  • part of boot and here and there

3. One of the front Parking Sensors caused malfunction of parking sensors and 4) Handbrake will need adjusting/ looking at.

Owner does not admit the leather seats look to be in need of a good clean

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