Porsche 911 for sale

[zagatoes30]

I'm not convinced, the original Sierra still looks terrible, the later ones less so but they are quite different to the first iterations. Those big BMW kidneys are still an eyesore to me and always wil be maybe I hold grudges longer.

I know the Alpine is a great drivers car but to me its just a modern interpretation on the original theme which is something I'm rarely a fan of, designers should be inspired by the fast but not fully plagiarise.

However I like the Cayman and I actually like the fact that it's not a 911, in fact nearly all the Porsches I like are not 911s which once again is just a constant development on the theme with little or no imagination

 

[Ewan]

You really ought to try a Cayman R.
It really is rather excellent, and not at all boring and clinical like the regular Cayman can be.


Whisper it - as a road car, I prefer it to a 911 GT3…

I tried a Cayman R back when they were new. It was okay, but I didn't want to buy it. Compared to my Alpine now, it’s just older, heavier, slower and more expensive to run. So while I happily accept it is a very good car, it’s still a no from me.

 

[williamsmix]

I'm not convinced, the original Sierra still looks terrible, the later ones less so but they are quite different to the first iterations. Those big BMW kidneys are still an eyesore to me and always wil be maybe I hold grudges longer.

I know the Alpine is a great drivers car but to me its just a modern interpretation on the original theme which is something I'm rarely a fan of, designers should be inspired by the fast but not fully plagiarise.

However I like the Cayman and I actually like the fact that it's not a 911, in fact nearly all the Porsches I like are not 911s which once again is just a constant development on the theme with little or no imagination

Yes, I prefer the mid-engined concept to the rear. It’s surprising that Porsche didn’t have a mid-engined car in production for so long, when it’s a much better starting point for a sports car. I do see a line of development also in the Cayman going right back to the 550 / 718 Spyders. It’s a bit ironic that those (very innovative at the time) power to weight principles are more dominant attributes of the Alpine than they are of the 718 Boxster / Cayman. Anyhow, to brighten the day here is some amazing footage of Derek Bell in an original 718 on the old Targa Florio circuit:

 

[Guy]

The R is not about performance figures per se, it’s about involvement and feel.
And aren’t the ratios on the 718 a bit cack?

Great point well made. Add in a sonorous flat six note and it makes for a great car. A good friend has a Cayman S from the era that has been modified to replicate an R by a Porsche race team. He treated himself to a new Boxster GTS 4.0 3 years ago but sold it after a year as it was less fun to drive than the 2006 Cayman. Too detached, long gears, need to be travelling too fast for it to come alive. I think this is what makes the Alpine special too, great fun on our broken roads without the need for 500bhp and all the weight that comes with it.