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[Bebs]

Will do. The fronts and backs should be the same. Not sure why they did different for the backs. Worth checking yours to see if they are different. If the same can you let me know? Ta.

Yep will dig them out, take a look and report back.

 

[Gazcw]

Well spent today pumping 4 litres of brake fluid through the system and have failed miserably to get rid of the air. I have partial brakes right down the bottom of the pedal travel so I guess it is going to need hooking up to computer so I will be calling Matt tomorrow and organising transport too.

 

[philw696]

 

[Gazcw]

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Phil is it easy to get to and bleed the master cylinder? I am thinking I have air in there as one of the hose clamps popped off when calipers were off and whilst I had a bag tied over to catch any seepage, it drained the reservoir. I thought there was still enough fluid but maybe not now.

 

[philw696]

Phil is it easy to get to and bleed the master cylinder? I am thinking I have air in there as one of the hose clamps popped off when calipers were off and whilst I had a bag tied over to catch any seepage, it drained the reservoir. I thought there was still enough fluid but maybe not now.

Usually gravity will pull the fluid down from the master cylinder.
My guess is excess pumping of the pedal has pushed an air bubble back and forth.
Best bread with a air vacuum blender now.

 

[Mr S]

If you are careful with the resovoir level, is it best to bleed with an Ezibleed, or a vacuum?
Wouldn't mind fitting braided hoses and maybe swap my callipers overs and send the originals to get refurbed. Just wondering if it can be a DIY or if it needs a machine to do it.

 

[Bebs]

Gaz, I had a look at my braided hose set and I also have 2 different hose fittings. Which one is the correct one?
Not sure if there is a difference between models or model years though.. mine is a 2010 GT-S MC shift.

 

[Gazcw]

Usually gravity will pull the fluid down from the master cylinder.
My guess is excess pumping of the pedal has pushed an air bubble back and forth.
Best bread with a air vacuum blender now.

I was using a pressurised bleeder and that made little change. Just thinking about reconnecting and cracking pipe connections unless they have a bleed nipple on them?

 

[philw696]

I was using a pressurised bleeder and that made little change. Just thinking about reconnecting and cracking pipe connections unless they have a bleed nipple on them?

I reckon you have an airlock in the master cylinder and I don't think gravity will pull it through.
You can try someone pump the pedal 10 times and hold it down and then the other person open the bleed nipple close and repeat until the fluid comes through nicely on each corner.

 

[Gazcw]

Gaz, I had a look at my braided hose set and I also have 2 different hose fittings. Which one is the correct one?
Not sure if there is a difference between models or model years though.. mine is a 2010 GT-S MC shift.

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They are both correct, but if you look inside the brake pipe connection they should (for me) all be f type. If they are E type then pipes won't fit. Probrake have said Maserati is all type E which doesn't explain why the fronts they sent were F and they fit! I noticed your fronts only have one grommet. Mine had 3. One to stop rubbing on inner wing and 2 fix to the upper arm.

 

[Gazcw]

I reckon you have an airlock in the master cylinder and I don't think gravity will pull it through.
You can try someone pump the pedal 10 times and hold it down and then the other person open the bleed nipple close and repeat until the fluid comes through nicely on each corner.

Did that lots until I had no spare fluid and no air was coming out. I read somewhere the cylinder is slightly tilted and air gets trapped. Guess I will be stripping top engine covers to gain access to it.

 

[philw696]

Did that lots until I had no spare fluid and no air was coming out. I read somewhere the cylinder is slightly tilted and air gets trapped. Guess I will be stripping top engine covers to gain access to it.

Hope you haven't got air in the abs pump as well as you just might be pushing it back and forth.
Pressurised bleeding is probably the only way you will get it through.

 

[Gazcw]

Hope you haven't got air in the abs pump as well as you just might be pushing it back and forth.
Pressurised bleeding is probably the only way you will get it through.

Well if I have, I guess it is on its way to Southampton and in the lowloader thread

 

[Bebs]

They are both correct, but if you look inside the brake pipe connection they should (for me) all be f type. If they are E type then pipes won't fit. Probrake have said Maserati is all type E which doesn't explain why the fronts they sent were F and they fit! I noticed your fronts only have one grommet. Mine had 3. One to stop rubbing on inner wing and 2 fix to the upper arm.
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All mine look like E!
I’m confused.com

 

[Bebs]

 

[Gazcw]

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I cannot tell on the 2nd pic whether it is raised inside. If you look at #18 https://www.sportsmaserati.com/index.php?threads/new-shinies.32853/post-836572 they should look like the left one and not be raised at the bottom inside. Sorry rubbish description I know.

 

[Bebs]

They are not raised inside.

 

[Gazcw]

They are not raised inside.

Then you are good to go. Get em fitted or give me the back ones....

 

[Bebs]

Then you are good to go. Get em fitted or give me the back ones....

I’ll replace them when I get new discs & pads fitted all round - unfortunately only done 2000 miles in it over the past year so old pads are still clinging on for dear life..

 

[Gazcw]

I’ll replace them when I get new discs & pads fitted all round - unfortunately only done 2000 miles in it over the past year so old pads are still clinging on for dear life..

You don't need them then! Hopefully the Germans will come good and realise their mistake. Interesting yours are ok. I will use that in case they argue, as he said in email 'all' Maserati used the other type.