Just Jane

Lozzer

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The Sunderland wings were the same as on the Short Stirling, of which no examples survive. My fave WW2 bomber even though it was the worst of the heavies...
My parents gave me a book when I was a child with this pic in the foreward.
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safrane

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A giant of a thing :p
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No connection but the Sunderland is still my fave though, yes we called into Duxford too, would love to see one of these back in the air. Interestingly there are rumours a couple lie on the bottom of Lake Windermere.
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The Lake District rumours are just urban legends... yes they made them on Lake Windermere under licence but that's all.
 

MaserMike

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Well our date with the Lancaster "Just Jane" went rather well, quite a few cars turned up, I remember 1 Ferrari, a few Jags amongst modern stuff and a Nissan Qashqai! no other Massers though. Shame she was missing her wingtips! £37 well spent and all in a good cause to try and get her back in the air.
The price included a professional photo to take home (the bottom one), well worth doing if you ever get the opportunity, which I'm sure there will be in the future.
The Lady on the gate said "Ooh 3200?", "Yes it is" I says, " ooh lovely, and you drove all the way here?, Come right in your nerves must be shot".....
P. S. It was bloody boiling!
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Lovely pictures! I didn't realise they were doing a photo shoot event and would have been nice to meet up with one of my cars, as I'm literally 10mins down the road from the air museum! They unfortunately cancelled many of the car shows... Here's some photos of a couple of my cars previously inside the main hangar (Mondial & Testarossa)88322883228832388324
 

P5Nij

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Those quad engine bombers and the Sunderland are seriously impressive but one of my favourite aircraft has always been the humble Lysander....

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There are some incredible WW2 images on pinterest which I've gathered together in my hard drive (perhaps for another thread some time), including some quite harrowing and some strangely joyous, everything on the ground and in the air from the outbreak of war through the Battle Of Britain, the holocaust, North Africa, Western Europe, The Russian Front, D-Day etc to the final days of 1945. Like several members of SM, being a child of the '60s I grew up on a diet of classic war films with family who had lived through it and told their own stories down the years, as such it has always fascinated me. Sometimes it's a nice distraction from the old car malarkey ;).
 

Lozzer

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Those quad engine bombers and the Sunderland are seriously impressive but one of my favourite aircraft has always been the humble Lysander....

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There are some incredible WW2 images on pinterest which I've gathered together in my hard drive (perhaps for another thread some time), including some quite harrowing and some strangely joyous, everything on the ground and in the air from the outbreak of war through the Battle Of Britain, the holocaust, North Africa, Western Europe, The Russian Front, D-Day etc to the final days of 1945. Like several members of SM, being a child of the '60s I grew up on a diet of classic war films with family who had lived through it and told their own stories down the years, as such it has always fascinated me. Sometimes it's a nice distraction from the old car malarkey ;).
Please do share someday, history is history and should never be forgotten, or indeed as some groups would have it, rewritten. I was born in the 70's and even then i was taught about ww2, by my parents, and my grandparents, it seems to get diluted year on year now, I fear to a point no-one will remember when we are gone. Speaking of which I went and paid my respect to these men and women in Cambridge, and I'm not remotely connected to anyone American but we owe them, ours, and others so much.
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alfatwo

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Please do share someday, history is history and should never be forgotten, or indeed as some groups would have it, rewritten. I was born in the 70's and even then i was taught about ww2, by my parents, and my grandparents, it seems to get diluted year on year now, I fear to a point no-one will remember when we are gone. Speaking of which I went and paid my respect to these men and women in Cambridge, and I'm not remotely connected to anyone American but we owe them, ours, and others so much.
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Don't worry Lozz, they'll never be forgotten.. what from our generation to the next!

You are a bit of a wimp being born in the 70's though, I had my first Alfa in 1969 :cool:

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Alan Surrey

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They are a stunning aircraft indeed, to buy one privately, as the Panton brothers did with this one, to honour their brother that was lost in ww2, and keep it in taxiing condition is I think a remarkable achievment, although now a charity, the next step is restoration to airworthy condition, when that happens I don't think the access to it will be as informal as it is today. Enjoy it while you can!!
They currently have a privately owned taxi condition Mosquito in there too :p
Thanks for posting this Lozzer.
I've missed something here. I would love to see and hear a Mosquito taxiing. Where is it?
 

Alan Surrey

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Those quad engine bombers and the Sunderland are seriously impressive but one of my favourite aircraft has always been the humble Lysander....

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There are some incredible WW2 images on pinterest which I've gathered together in my hard drive (perhaps for another thread some time), including some quite harrowing and some strangely joyous, everything on the ground and in the air from the outbreak of war through the Battle Of Britain, the holocaust, North Africa, Western Europe, The Russian Front, D-Day etc to the final days of 1945. Like several members of SM, being a child of the '60s I grew up on a diet of classic war films with family who had lived through it and told their own stories down the years, as such it has always fascinated me. Sometimes it's a nice distraction from the old car malarkey ;).
The funny looking Lysander is not so humble really. Designed by Teddy Petter, a brilliant aerodynamicist, years ahead of his time, it could take off and land on a sixpence knee deep in grass. Very handy for the folk of the French resistance
Teddy Petter went on to design the English Electric Lightning, also years ahead of its time. Can someone remind me how long it took for the Americans to design build and fly something that could outclimb it?
 

Silvercat

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AVRO was part of the Hawker Siddeley group of companies, after John Siddeley bought A. v.Roe Ltd in 1935. There was a lovely Lancaster flypast at the A-S Centenary celebration in Coventry in 2019
When I used to work at the old Avro factory in Woodford back in the 1990's, I once got invited to the annual 'Avro 504' club dinner as a guest. Its is generally considered to be the most exclusive aviation club in the world, which started back in the 1920's by A.V. Roe, for the 'apprentice of the year'. It had many esteemed members including Roy Chadwick (who designed the Avro Lancaster) This was a life long award so those apprentices who were given the award generally attended the dinner every year. I've got a few old mates who are still members of this club and they have some great stories to tell about some of the past members. Sadly with the closure of Woodford and Chadderton back in 2010, there are no more apprentices coming into the club now, so it will inevitably die. A real shame with so much history associated with it.
 

stevepen

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When I used to work at the old Avro factory in Woodford back in the 1990's, I once got invited to the annual 'Avro 504' club dinner as a guest. Its is generally considered to be the most exclusive aviation club in the world, which started back in the 1920's by A.V. Roe, for the 'apprentice of the year'. It had many esteemed members including Roy Chadwick (who designed the Avro Lancaster) This was a life long award so those apprentices who were given the award generally attended the dinner every year. I've got a few old mates who are still members of this club and they have some great stories to tell about some of the past members. Sadly with the closure of Woodford and Chadderton back in 2010, there are no more apprentices coming into the club now, so it will inevitably die. A real shame with so much history associated with it.
My dad used to work at Woodford as well and talked about that club.


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