Interesting observation.
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Pretty rare, yeah, because the sales teams would have pushed the sale of skyhook quite hard I'd imagine.
When on the hunt for a GT-S I drove a few, and I did prefer the non skyhook.
Skyhook seems to be a little soft in normal and a little skittish in sport, not horrible by any means, but the fixed dampers are somewhere inbetween and it just feels 'right'.
It still feels just about sporty enough when pushed, but still rides the bumps better than any car I've had before.
Also means you can have it in Sport for the noise without rattling your teeth out, or you can go in stealth mode without comproming the ride.
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You see an M3 as an upgrade from a GT-S?
Each to their own, but I just don't see the appeal at all of the M cars. Unless it's your everyday family car and you have another toy or something more special for the weekends.
My stepson has had a few M3s over the years and I just find them soulless. Capable yes. But a bit boring. And it's just another BMW to most people. Nothing out of the norm.
*I know I'm in the minority *
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Maybe not Supercar but off all the cars that I have had over the years and driven quite a few of the Super ones I rate my 987.1 Boxster S at 15 years old one of my Best buys.
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I meant upgrading from my standard E46 M3 to a CSL. I am loving my GTS so far! I don't see the M3 as a direct competitor to the GTS but they are great cars and serve different purposes. I wouldn't say the M3 is soulless though and I have owned mine for nearly ten years. It doesn't have the presence or the sound of the GTS but surprising how well it performs for a 20 year old design!
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Boxster or Cayman S circa 2005 era on most days are as good a sportscar as anything out there and they are great value for money
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I would have to say I had an M3 CSL and it was a very special car indeed. Sounded better than my 3200 and was an occasion every time I sat in those carbon backed seats......It was a weapon on track and never failed to bring a big smile to my face and it was anything nut boring....Wish I had kept her as I sold for 26k and now you struggle to get one under 40k....
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I think the prices for CSL have softened and few for sale under £40k, though it wont be low mileage.
There are certainly interesting models that are now falling in to the affordable range.
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The CSL is a fabulous car, and a completely different experience to a GranTurismo, even an MC Stradale.
However fabulous it is, I’d go for a Z4M. Same engine, same all important steering rack, half the price of the cheapest M3 CSL...
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I've driven E46 M3, E46 M3 CSL and 4.7 GTS MC (current car).
I sold my 2006 M3 Manual Coupé and replaced with the GTS. The GTS is very different and more special, but for me, performs the same role. Seats 4 adults (if needed), decent boot, fast, 'not a normal boring car' etc.
The E46 M3 CSL is like the difference between a regular 911 and a GT3. They're pretty special and distinct to drive from the regular E46 M3 (which is already very good).
I'd put the E46 M3 CSL and 4.7 GTS MC on a par, but for different reasons. The transmission is perhaps the most common attribute, which I know is a bit marmite for both BMW and Maserati owners.
Just my personal view.
I think the Granturismo is at or nearing a low point in the used market. There aren't going to be cars like this in the future and the Granturismo is now no more.
I sold my 2006 M3 Manual Coupé and replaced with the GTS. The GTS is very different and more special, but for me, performs the same role. Seats 4 adults (if needed), decent boot, fast, 'not a normal boring car' etc.
The E46 M3 CSL is like the difference between a regular 911 and a GT3. They're pretty special and distinct to drive from the regular E46 M3 (which is already very good).
I'd put the E46 M3 CSL and 4.7 GTS MC on a par, but for different reasons. The transmission is perhaps the most common attribute, which I know is a bit marmite for both BMW and Maserati owners.
Just my personal view.
I think the Granturismo is at or nearing a low point in the used market. There aren't going to be cars like this in the future and the Granturismo is now no more.