There's a nice black 2012 facelift MC Shift on Autotrader for £35k . Thats is a bargain .
I've had my eye on that for a month. I've decided to keep the GS for a bit longer . I just find it too much fun to drive.I know the car, lovely example, new brakes all round and a clutch.
Which one is it?
Can’t find the link so it may well have sold.
I was thinking that, so where is the value on things like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston and Porsche.The market isn’t great. You may lose money when you sell but you get a better deal on the one you buy.
Before Christmas a new Vantage was £1000 in (deposit) and £1000 per month over 24 months. They sold like hot cakes, but used values will be hit in the next 12 months. Ferrari is especially interesting, as an example dealers never had targets for the California. 5 per year was OK. Not so with the Portofino, hence why if you want an 812 and you aren’t a previous customer you will need to buy a Portofino to be eligible. This is to get the numbers up and achieve the volume, but this has killed the exclusivity and driven down used values across the board. £60k+ off list for a car with 300 miles isn’t unusual. A family connection works for Porsche and apparently most dealers aren’t underwriting cars for stock due to being over stocked. They are straight out to auction. I also was told first hand of a call between two competing dealers of one of the brands mentioned above where one of them phoned the other to ask why the **** the shiny red car they were advertising was so cheap. The answer.....because we could, it’s the best trade bid the customer had. The outcome? Everyone else had to follow suit....and so it begins.I was thinking that, so where is the value on things like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston and Porsche.
I think I have a fair idea, but welcome views...
Interesting, but maybe I should have qualified by saying that I don't use finance and I'm looking at under £100k.Before Christmas a new Vantage was £1000 in (deposit) and £1000 per month over 24 months. They sold like hot cakes, but used values will be hit in the next 12 months. Ferrari is especially interesting, as an example dealers never had targets for the California. 5 per year was OK. Not so with the Portofino, hence why if you want an 812 and you aren’t a previous customer you will need to buy a Portofino to be eligible. This is to get the numbers up and achieve the volume, but this has killed the exclusivity and driven down used values across the board. £60k+ off list for a car with 300 miles isn’t unusual. A family connection works for Porsche and apparently most dealers aren’t underwriting cars for stock due to being over stocked. They are straight out to auction. I also was told first hand of a call between two competing dealers of one of the brands mentioned above where one of them phoned the other to ask why the **** the shiny red car they were advertising was so cheap. The answer.....because we could, it’s the best trade bid the customer had. The outcome? Everyone else had to allow suit....and so it begins.
It doesn’t matter how you pay for it, the value of the models you mention are affected by the availability and values of the more modern cars in the line up. The finance element is important as it makes more modern and expensive machinery far more attainable for more people.Interesting, but maybe I should have qualified by saying that I don't use finance and I'm looking at under £100k.
Just looked up the Portofino, but they still seem expensive to me.
The sort of thing that appeals are things like:
V12 Vantage, DBS, Vanquish
Ferrari 360, 430, 550, California
Porsche GT3, GT4
That sort of thing.
Frankly, it is a race to the bottom which having just sold my 2009 QP 4.7 S today, ..."I'm out". The market is a disaster right now and I won't be looking to re-enter it for a good few years sadly. I wish it was different.It's getting a bit daft, it's like a race to the bottom.
I was thinking about selling my car in the spring, but would rather keep it than give a good car away at a silly price. Especially having invested a fair chunk on the usual maintenance stuff recently, plus a few discretionary things.
Articles like this should raise interest in the V8 cars, truly the end of an era.
All-electric Maserati GranTurismo previewed
Next-gen coupe will be first to adopt manufacturer's 100 per cent electric powertrainwww.pistonheads.com
Also, the relative rarity of the Granturismo is underplayed. Compared to Aston Martin's Vantage, there aren't that many about. E.g. just over 300 UK 4.7 GTS MC.