Clutch Replacement

[agrassick]

I have read many posts about the clutch replacement but can't seem to find a definitive answer as to whether the clutch needs to be balanced when replaced on an 07 QP.

Does it need doing or is placing the marks 180 deg apart sufficient ?

Also stupid question but could it be changed and then driven to have the PIS setup with the SD3 ?

Apologies if these are stupid question but my first Maserati and trying to keep the running costs down

 

[safrane]

Your observations are correct... no definitive answer has been forthcoming.

However given the cost between doing it and not doing it (balance) I would err on the side of caution.

You also need the SD3 to set up other parameters not just the balance...bite the bullet and use a good indi...it will save worry and or heartache.

 

[voicey]

I'm very reluctant to post on threads like these as there will invariably be people who come on and say I'm talking rubbish, which then gets my back up and forces me to take a break from the forums. Anyway....

Not balancing the clutch runs a risk that the resulting vibrations will cause issues down the line. The risk is low but there nonetheless. The correct way to balance the clutch is to use the "Equaliser" tool connected to the SD2/3 however not many people have one so the reality is that many clutches are not balanced and most don't give any trouble at all.

You asked about driving without having the PIS set - this is not really relevant if you're planning to DIY the clutch change as you'll need to bleed the clutch line before you can think about driving the car and you can't bleed without a diagnostic. If you have the diagnostic at this point then you can sort the PIS and the other parameters that need to be set for a new clutch.

It is also good practice to read and save the TCU parameters before taking it all apart so you'll need a diagnostic at the beginning too.

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

I'm very reluctant to post on threads like these as there will invariably be people who come on and say I'm talking rubbish, which then gets my back up and forces me to take a break from the forums. Anyway....

Not balancing the clutch runs a risk that the resulting vibrations will cause issues down the line. The risk is low but there nonetheless. The correct way to balance the clutch is to use the "Equaliser" tool connected to the SD2/3 however not many people have one so the reality is that many clutches are not balanced and most don't give any trouble at all.

You asked about driving without having the PIS set - this is not really relevant if you're planning to DIY the clutch change as you'll need to bleed the clutch line before you can think about driving the car and you can't bleed without a diagnostic. If you have the diagnostic at this point then you can sort the PIS and the other parameters that need to be set for a new clutch.

It is also good practice to read and save the TCU parameters before taking it all apart so you'll need a diagnostic at the beginning too.

I only read this thread out of curiosity as the first Maserati I considered was also a QP. Obviously clutch wear etc is a hot topic. I have to say Voicey, your response was one of the most detailed and authorative I've read on this forum to date. For what it's worth, I'd encourage you to contribute more, as you obviously have a lot of value to add here. Apologies for interjecting OP. Just my ten cents worth

 

[cheshiremaserati]

Voicey - I also encourage you to post and share your experience. I understand your first point about counter repleis - it has happened so many times on the Porsche Forum 911UK that I have drastically cut back my posts to avoid keyboard warriors slagging off my contributions - I would n't mind if they were accurate, but they are not! They are absolute b*ll s*/t responses from Porsche guys who think they are Porsche technicians when they are not!

To the OP on the clutch issue - I did my research before buying my car last September and it really is a indy job given that the set up requires dealer level diagnostics which are expensive. So if you have ot have it replaced, my suggestion is to bite the bullet and hand the job over to an indy specialist. I really don't think its a DIY job - but I'm no Maserati technician.

 

[agrassick]

Many thanks for the replies especially the detailed explanation from Voicey. As I plan to keep the car for a while I will take it te a specialist indy to replace. Can anybody recomend an good Indy around the Essex area ?

Cheers for all the advice.

 

[CatmanV2]

Many thanks for the replies especially the detailed explanation from Voicey. As I plan to keep the car for a while I will take it te a specialist indy to replace. Can anybody recomend an good Indy around the Essex area ?

Cheers for all the advice.

Giallo Motors in Tonbridge will always get my vote.

C

 

[GeoffCapes]

Many thanks for the replies especially the detailed explanation from Voicey. As I plan to keep the car for a while I will take it te a specialist indy to replace. Can anybody recomend an good Indy around the Essex area ?

Cheers for all the advice.

Depends how soon it needs doing? If it needs doing immediately the as Catman says Giallo are excellent.

If you are in no rush in a couple of months you could get Voicey to do it for you when he will hopefully be in his new premises.

 

[voicey]

If you really want to DIY it and don't want to worry about the balancing, then I'd be happy to do an initial read of the parameters (if you bring it over). You could then trailer it back to me for the final bleed/set up.

 

[Wack61]

If you really want to DIY it and don't want to worry about the balancing, then I'd be happy to do an initial read of the parameters (if you bring it over). You could then trailer it back to me for the final bleed/set up.

Voicey, this forum is very lucky to have you posting , thank you for your input and technical expertise, please don't be put off by the odd pillock , I like most of the members I guess are very grateful you take the time.

 

[CatmanV2]

Voicey, this forum is very lucky to have you posting , thank you for your input and technical expertise, please don't be put off by the odd pillock , I like most of the members I guess are very grateful you take the time.

+1

You've helped me out several times. There are too many keyboard warriors, as well as those of us that are well meaning, but simply do not have your elvel of expertise.

C

 

[adam01]

+2

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[ChrisNico]

+1

You've helped me out several times. There are too many keyboard warriors, as well as those of us that are well meaning, but simply do not have your elvel of expertise.

C

+3. Thanks for all the previous advice Voicey. You're at the top of my list for when I need my clutch replacing!

~Chris

 

[agrassick]

Many thanks for all the options, Voicey i'll message you if that's ok.