Classic Car - conundrum

Nayf

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zagatoes30 said:
NEC prices were bonkers and a bit against the trend of the auctions from what I can deduce.

This sort of sums me up


An Airbus 380 is on its way across the Atlantic. It flies consistently at 800 km/h at 30,000 feet, when suddenly an Eurofighter with a Tempo Mach 2 appears.
The pilot of the fighter jet slows down, flies alongside the Airbus and greets the pilot of the passenger plane by radio: "Airbus, boring flight isn’t it? Now have a look here!"
He rolls his jet on its back, accelerates, breaks through the sound barrier, rises rapidly to a dizzying height, and then swoops down almost to sea level in a breathtaking dive. He loops back next to the Airbus and asks: "Well, how was that?"
The Airbus pilot answers: "Very impressive, but watch this!"
The jet pilot watches the Airbus, but nothing happens. It continues to fly straight, at the same speed. After 15 minutes, the Airbus pilot radios, "Well, how was that?
Confused, the jet pilot asks, "What did you do?"
The Airbus pilot laughs and says: "I got up, stretched my legs, walked to the back of the aircraft to use the washroom, then got a cup of coffee and a chocolate fudge pastry."
The moral of the story is: When you’re young, speed and adrenaline seems to be great. But as you get older and wiser, you learn that comfort and peace are more important.
This is called S.O.S.: Slower, Older and Smarter.
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Can see how the SZ and perhaps to a lesser extent the 155 might be less appealing.
I love both but they're not exactly relaxing to drive (in a good way, for the most part).
 
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zagatoes30 said:
Got hit by a Land Rover Discovery whilst out walking which broke both my arms back in July, it has taken sometime to get mobility back and still don't have enough strength in right arm to use a LHD gearbox or in either to steer a car without power steering.
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Sorry to hear about your accident too and wish you a full speedy recovery.

I also reduced my collection down from 4 specials to 2, when I sold my 2x Maseratis although I do miss them…. The head took over the heart, gave me back more space and time to sort out the Testarossa which needed a load of major refurbishment and money this year. Also saved quite a bit of cash in tax, maintenance, insurance etc. Next in line is to major service the Oldsmobile and use her, these old girls like the red head need to be used and hate sitting around.

As the classic car market is starting to soften, it will soon be a buyers market I feel… watching the auctions there’s definitely a correction starting, E types jags for example are taking a big hit. So maybe good for you if you are looking to buy something special, the extra special ones will always be recession proof though!
 
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zagatoes30 said:
NEC prices were bonkers and a bit against the trend of the auctions from what I can deduce.

This sort of sums me up


An Airbus 380 is on its way across the Atlantic. It flies consistently at 800 km/h at 30,000 feet, when suddenly an Eurofighter with a Tempo Mach 2 appears.
The pilot of the fighter jet slows down, flies alongside the Airbus and greets the pilot of the passenger plane by radio: "Airbus, boring flight isn’t it? Now have a look here!"
He rolls his jet on its back, accelerates, breaks through the sound barrier, rises rapidly to a dizzying height, and then swoops down almost to sea level in a breathtaking dive. He loops back next to the Airbus and asks: "Well, how was that?"
The Airbus pilot answers: "Very impressive, but watch this!"
The jet pilot watches the Airbus, but nothing happens. It continues to fly straight, at the same speed. After 15 minutes, the Airbus pilot radios, "Well, how was that?
Confused, the jet pilot asks, "What did you do?"
The Airbus pilot laughs and says: "I got up, stretched my legs, walked to the back of the aircraft to use the washroom, then got a cup of coffee and a chocolate fudge pastry."
The moral of the story is: When you’re young, speed and adrenaline seems to be great. But as you get older and wiser, you learn that comfort and peace are more important.
This is called S.O.S.: Slower, Older and Smarter.
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Reminds me of similar tale;

Two bulls walking along the top of a hill, one young bull and one old bull.
As they come around the top of the hill they see a heard of young heifers.
The young bull says to the old bull "let's run down there and **** a couple of cows"
The old bull looks at him and says "let's walk down and **** them all"
 
Tallman

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zagatoes30 said:
NEC prices were bonkers and a bit against the trend of the auctions from what I can deduce.

This sort of sums me up


An Airbus 380 is on its way across the Atlantic. It flies consistently at 800 km/h at 30,000 feet, when suddenly an Eurofighter with a Tempo Mach 2 appears.
The pilot of the fighter jet slows down, flies alongside the Airbus and greets the pilot of the passenger plane by radio: "Airbus, boring flight isn’t it? Now have a look here!"
He rolls his jet on its back, accelerates, breaks through the sound barrier, rises rapidly to a dizzying height, and then swoops down almost to sea level in a breathtaking dive. He loops back next to the Airbus and asks: "Well, how was that?"
The Airbus pilot answers: "Very impressive, but watch this!"
The jet pilot watches the Airbus, but nothing happens. It continues to fly straight, at the same speed. After 15 minutes, the Airbus pilot radios, "Well, how was that?
Confused, the jet pilot asks, "What did you do?"
The Airbus pilot laughs and says: "I got up, stretched my legs, walked to the back of the aircraft to use the washroom, then got a cup of coffee and a chocolate fudge pastry."
The moral of the story is: When you’re young, speed and adrenaline seems to be great. But as you get older and wiser, you learn that comfort and peace are more important.
This is called S.O.S.: Slower, Older and Smarter.
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Agree and that is why Maserati with the QPV and GT score high - you can get the adrenaline if you want it but you can also just cruise in auto for the other 80% of the time. As long as you get a good ’un..

I’ve been looking at an older classic myself but I keep on getting reminded that they drive less easy, maintain less easy (if you’re not doing it yourself, also think parts availability). The idea is great but also it’s a real commitment at many level….

Get well soon, the recovery from that is not joke and worth a lot of effort - I broke my foot badly in Jan and am still struggling. I don’t know if they have Biokinetics in your area but that great for recovery.
 
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I’ve been looking at an older classic myself but I keep on getting reminded that they drive less easy, maintain less easy (if you’re not doing it yourself, also think parts availability). The idea is great but also it’s a real commitment at many level….

My thinking has been in the opposite direction of late, hence sinking an eye-watering sum into an FIA Apoendix K certified GT40 to race. I agree that parts in some old cars can be a problem, but not a Ford V8 with a ZF manual gearbox, where the most complex electrics are the lights and wipers!

As manufacturers move to EV production, how long will they continue to support complex ICE cars from the early 21st century, with the diagnostic equipment needed to diagnose faults and supply the ECU’s and other modules with their embedded IPR to programme and supply such parts?

I fear many such cars will become beautiful static exhibits when such modules fail and reprogrammed replacements are unobtainable and 3rd parities can’t access the IPR from the manufacturer’s to do so. At that point my carburettored Ford engined dinosaur will still be happily mobile.
 
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A couple of days ago I was lucky to find and purchase a 55 year old S3 Lotus Elan that had covered a genuine 20250 miles. I had one back in the seventies and really regretted selling it. Here’s a couple of photos.

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Nice, enjoy, it looks lovely. I'm still hoping to find my Europa one day.TTC 566H. Off the radar for a good few years now.
 
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Geo said:
A couple of days ago I was lucky to find and purchase a 55 year old S3 Lotus Elan that had covered a genuine 20250 miles. I had one back in the seventies and really regretted selling it. Here’s a couple of photos.

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Oh my…. nearly bought a white Elan ‘project’ in Liverpool many years ago. Test drove it with no floor but the deal fell through literally when the Wee Woman suspected she was pregnant. Wasn’t supposed to be possible on her part but hey ho. 4 sprogs later and I was persuaded to ‘draw stumps; snip snip’.
 
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Not the easiest of cars to drive if you're over 6 foot tall though.
Did a lot of work on one a few years ago and the guy then disappeared found him in the end and he was in Malta.
 
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Credit where credit’s due.


A big thank you goes to Sam Fretwell who owns and runs the Classicwise Car Collection in Eakring.

I purchased the S3 Elan from him and I’m truly delighted with it. It’s a complete step back in time for me, and I’m so looking forward to getting out in it come spring.

I would particularly like to thank him for the superb service over the last few days involving the purchase of the Lotus. Buying at a distance without viewing is always a bit worrying, but he put my mind at ease with lots of photos and great communication. His honesty made the whole experience a pleasure .
 
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