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D Walker said:
Just been to Tesco.
apart from pasta, bog roll and hand wash there was plenty of everything else. Kitchen roll on last legs tho.
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I went to Lidl last night and got everything on my weekly shop minus eggs and part baked baguettes

I always keep a stocked pantry more so since brexit over fears of price rises on certain produce from countries like Italy. Panic buying is for the unprepared.
 
Phil H said:
Iain, I specifically asked "is it more virulent than anything we've seen previously?" and you appear to have answered the question.

I'm just a member of Joe Public without the inside knowledge or resources you may have, so to imply that folk such as I are deluded is rather disingenuous. If you want people to understand then explain - don't insult them.

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I agree it can be quite difficult to understand unless you go loooking for the truth. And I agree the media aren’t giving the accurate facts. The basics are - it’s like nothing that has ever been seen before. It’s not a virus like any form of flu. There is no immunity worldwide. It’s way more virulent (likely to spread) than anything we have seen before. The mortality rate is higher than we have ever seen before. There is enough willing manpower to deal with it- but there isn’t the equipment to sustain life (ventilators, protective equipment etc). It will be like the zulus cs a Gatling gun. On the plus side the government are taking it seriously now, and there have been some promising findings regarding potential antiviral treatments and vaccines etc. It’s just very sad it’s coincided with me making a decision on my new toy, and now I have every valid reason in the world for not going ahead with the purchase :(
 
D Walker said:
What do you mix it with. Coke or lemonade.
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You say that, in sainsburys this morning an eastern european guy was panic buying

Four 1 litre bottles of vodka , a 1 litre bottle of coke and 6 cans of Heineken.

He's either going out with a bang or it's a new recipe for handwash
 
Wack61 said:
You say that, in sainsburys this morning an eastern european guy was panic buying

Four 1 litre bottles of vodka , a 1 litre bottle of coke and 6 cans of Heineken.

He's either going out with a bang or it's a new recipe for handwash
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A guy in Tesco this morning had 2 bottles of whiskey in his basket.
that was it. Nothing else.
 
iainw said:
Oh my god - the problem is a vast number of people are burying their head in the sand , and either don’t understand or don’t want to understand the situation. ....... Anyone comparing it to avian flu, and SARS etc is deluded.
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Phil H said:
Iain, I specifically asked "is it more virulent than anything we've seen previously?" and you appear to have answered the question.

I'm just a member of Joe Public without the inside knowledge or resources you may have, so to imply that folk such as I are deluded is rather disingenuous. If you want people to understand then explain - don't insult them.
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iainw said:
..... The basics are - it’s like nothing that has ever been seen before. ...... The mortality rate is higher than we have ever seen before. ....
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Ok, now steady on with the hyperbole, insults and being insulted, chaps.

There are a varying levels of information, understanding and legitimate opinion here, and we need be be respectful of that. Nobody (really, nobody) knows everything about this, or how it will play out, even if some people on here are better informed than others or are highly confident that they are right.

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It seems to me that anyone "comparing it to avian flu, and SARS, etc," is surely absolutely entitled to do so, since the SARS pathogen is very similar indeed to the COVID-19 pathogen - and indeed the virus in the current outbreak has actually been officially named SARS-CoV-2. The rate of transmission and the medical impact might well be very different but the comparison is certainly valid.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...ase-(covid-2019)-and-the-virus-that-causes-it

And it is rather bold to say that "the mortality rate is higher than we have ever seen before" given that MERS (caused by another, comparable, coronavirus, MERS-CoV), had a death rate of over 30% (based on WHO figures for deaths/confirmed cases).
https://www.who.int/emergencies/mers-cov/en/
 
iainw said:
I agree it can be quite difficult to understand unless you go loooking for the truth. And I agree the media aren’t giving the accurate facts. The basics are - it’s like nothing that has ever been seen before. It’s not a virus like any form of flu. There is no immunity worldwide. It’s way more virulent (likely to spread) than anything we have seen before. The mortality rate is higher than we have ever seen before. There is enough willing manpower to deal with it- but there isn’t the equipment to sustain life (ventilators, protective equipment etc). It will be like the zulus cs a Gatling gun. On the plus side the government are taking it seriously now, and there have been some promising findings regarding potential antiviral treatments and vaccines etc. It’s just very sad it’s coincided with me making a decision on my new toy, and now I have every valid reason in the world for not going ahead with the purchase :(
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So Iain how on earth can something like this come about if its like nothing we have seen before? Could it have been genetically engineered?
 
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