Any thoughts on this one?

Contigo

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Just read this from a yahoo article.

"The difference between the early cars and 2001 model year edition is most marked in terms of driveability. The first cars to hit these shores were all manual models and frustrated keen drivers not because of their outright performance, but in the manner in which it was accessed. The throttle and brake pedal were like a hair trigger, unleashing great gales of turbocharged power after a slight pregnant pause while the turbos spooled up. To compound matters, this 370bhp tsunami would often take a moment to subside after the throttle had been closed, making town driving a nervy process.

This throttle action was softened in the slightly more urbane automatic version, but it too shared the odd brakes. For the first part of the pedal travel not a great deal happened and then suddenly youd be hanging off your seatbelts, eyeballs out on stalks. Smooth driving took a very delicate touch in the pedal box. Likewise the handling took some getting used to.

The ride was firm, but not out of keeping with the cars sporty character. It was only when you switched the traction control button off that you realised quite how much work the system was putting in. Lighting up the rear tyres in lurid oversteer was never easier, and the wet handling required a deft hand at the tiller. If you possessed such skills, the Maserati rewarded like no other competitor.

Balancing the car on the edge of traction as you exited a corner, the turbos detonating an explosion of power as the 3200GT squatted on its haunches and catapulted itself crazily up the road was a motoring experience that would live long in anybodys memory. The raw figures of 174mph and a rest to sixty time of 5.1 seconds understate the Maseratis sporting intent. Drive a 3200GT after stepping out of a Jaguar XKR and it will feel rawer and tauter a true sports car rather than a hotted up GT cruiser.

2001 model year cars are a revelation. The steering is less neurotic and the throttle response is far more linear, making the 3200GT a less frustrating companion for those of us without Schumachers reactions.

On any but the 2001 model year Maserati 3200GTs it is difficult to objectively recommend one over a Jaguar XKR or Porsche 911. Wonderful in some areas and frustratingly flawed in others, the Maserati is exasperatingly close to touching brilliance. What is without question is that the 3200GT is a more charismatic ownership proposition, desirability oozing from every pore. Early automatic cars are a good compromise if you cant stretch to a late car.

Pick a good one, learn to accommodate its characteristics and youll never castigate yourself for choosing the Modena marque. Every time your garage door opens and youre greeted with that trident emblem, anything else seems just that tiny bit mass-market."

Is that all ture then? So it seems that anything but a later model 3200 is not really a consideration then? Anyone want to confirm this?
 

nigw

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Just read this from a yahoo article....
Is that all ture then? So it seems that anything but a later model 3200 is not really a consideration then? Anyone want to confirm this?

I've had both - my first was one of the earliest (1999'T) and my current is one of the last (2002'02). It's true that the latest cars are meant to be best in terms of reliability and tweaks such as to the ECU to aid driveability, but I think the article overplays the difference. If I were you I wouldn't necessarily be put off an earlier one....there's a lot of variation between individual cars, so take each on its own merits.
 

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IMO that is why the earlier cars go for a little less money, even so still looks great value for a tidy car.
 

MAF260

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I'm not aware of such differences between years. I had a 2000 automatic - the throttle response was fine, especially after the odd soft reset (other threads on here discuss this, makes the throttle less edgy) and the brakes were 'interesting', but the braking issue applies to pretty much all coupes, even through to the 4200 & Gransport as they share the same parts. Little to nothing happens during the first part of pedal travel, but it all comes good in the end as log as discs & calipers are kept in good order.
 

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I agree that you should buy a car on its merits rather than age. That said my 99 3200 was an early build (seven hundred and odd - look at the last four digits of thre chassis number) and the 'Check Engine' light was on a lot. I also had a failed damper and cylinder head gasket at sub 20k miles - all fixed under warranty.

My understanding is that the early cars had all the modifications ('campaigns') done if they were serviced in the dealer network for the first few years.

An inspection will help but they cannot see everything that could happen in, say, three years of ownership. Turbos can blow, manifolds/cylinder head gaskets go and dampers fail. All big bucks. Get an inspection, buy one and put £3k in a bank account as an 'insurance fund'. If you have not used when you come to sell the car then have a bloody good holiday.
 

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I've had both - my first was one of the earliest (1999'T) and my current is one of the last (2002'02). It's true that the latest cars are meant to be best in terms of reliability and tweaks such as to the ECU to aid driveability, but I think the article overplays the difference. If I were you I wouldn't necessarily be put off an earlier one....there's a lot of variation between individual cars, so take each on its own merits.

I you had a 1999 T car, was it an ex press car? I heard the first customer cars were on a V reg plate.
 

bigbob

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Lots of dealer demo cars were on T plates - can't remember when the first ones' came through, think it was July. Mine was Oct 99 on a V, not that I was the first owner mind.
 

nigw

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The key 2001 model year changes were:

revised suspension geometry
new steering rack
uprated ECU (improving throttlebody response)

Between 1999 and 2002, there were apparently many other more subtle upgrades and/or improvements in addition to a limited number of recalls....but these subtle upgrades/improvements were often done to earlier cars as part of services - though apparently not necessarily mentioned to owners! (and could be as simple as changing how a cable was held). Buy the best looked after car you can....
 

Andyk

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Buy on condition and history....When cars get tothis age this is what matters....The first one looks a nice example.....I would go for a look.
 

Contigo

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Going to see one on Sunday. Will let you know how I get on.

Anyone own or know this one

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Contigo

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Dunno Mate that's why I asked, Saw it on Pistonheads news site (search function) and looks nice, just wondered if it's still on the road, I guess if I wasn't lazy I could search the dvla and vosa site to see if it's currently registered and taxed!
 

Andyk

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Thought it was black at first but you maybe right Adam....Looks very nice though...Let us know how you get on Contigo..
 

GransportFan1

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Always liked the 3200 in Green with a Tan interior, especially when the car is spotless, the paint shines really well.