Another non-Maserati question

[Wanderer]

Son-in-law sold his Renault Megan something over the internet, agreed £1700. Did the deal nearby in the street (red flag number one) stuffed the money in his pocket and off we went. I was the taxi on this.

Got home, checked the money and £500 of it in fifties had a very small line on them saying something like 'Not legal tender, for use on movie set only' and all the serial numbers were the same. Otherwise they felt real and looked real, not wishy-washy ink or weird paper. OK that was still a serious mistake, should have checked there and then. Called the buyer and he said the notes weren't fake when he handed them over, the fake ones must be ours. Utter BS.

Called the police and they have done very little really, except made copious notes - more or less saying you have to prove the guy knew the notes were fake and was trying to pass them off.

Heard nothing from DVLA so the thief hasn't tried to register as the keeper. We checked MID and car is NOT insured now.

Anyway, SIL's brother (off duty copper believe it or not) spotted the car locally on false plates. sent us the photos - definitely the same car, same blemishes even the same air-freshener. Plates are from a Renault but not the model

So we reported to police and it's all gone quiet again. Seems car is a pool car now for drug dealers (I watch a lot of Traffic Cops and Police Interceptors!)

So where does he stand? Who owns the car? Anything else we can do?

PS Just heard the car has been impounded, anyone know what's next?

 

[zagatoes30]

So many learnings

Don't sell cars for cash on street corners at night
Check any cash you receive thoroughly before releasing goods
Be careful arguing with drug dealers, the are already sat on the wrong side of the law

But if the cars has not been registered with DVLA are you still not the legal owner and in which case should it not be returned to you once the police have finished with it? You might need to pay some impound & storage fees but you have £1200 to use for that - I don't know but seems a logical argument to have

 

[Doohickey]

I'm not an expert or anything like it but he should have got a name and address and completed the disposal form either on the V5 or online. I've no doubt the bloke would have given a false one but if your SIL has acted in good faith then I would have thought he was off the hook.

The fact that you/he called about the fake notes confirms that he had sold it.

 

[RobinL]

So. SIL should have kept his part of the V5 and sent this away, and the new owner should have the buyers part and sent away....that's how it works.
Alternative and better is to do this online.

Technically until the registration changes by either sending in the sellers part of the V5 or completing the sale online the car remains with the SIL.
However nipping round to claim the car back won't work. It has probably been impounded as it has no insurance.....
So the SIL will be guilty of causing or allowing the vehicle to be used without insurance as it's still in his name.
Past experience tells me the boys in blue would be happy to charge anyone with an offence, guilty or not and trying to claim the car back just asks for their unwanted attention!
Best plan is to register the transfer online soonest with buyers details and treat the £500 lost as a lesson learned.

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