Am I missing something???

[Gary687]

My you've had a very interesting and fun collection of cars!! Very jealous (but in a good way of course!) Also the perspective from an owner like yourself who has had many makes very interesting reading. As for the Aston well I love them too!! It will come as no surprise to you I'm sure to hear that an Aston over in UK that is, say 40,000 pounds would retail here as an Oz-delivered car for $150,000+!! Even imports will go for $125,000+ It's so unfair!!!

Arguably due to the 'fixed costs' of importing a car, a more expensive car may be the best way to go so if and when I ever manage to save enough, then I'll be back!

The Giulietta is really nice - we added leather and the twin roofs so it's a very nice place to be with a fairly astonishing engine. Just gotta get the Mrs to look after it now, which is a major battle in itself!!

Thanks for all the constructive comments though!

G

 

[dem maser]

Funny, I've had both (at the same time) and genuinely found the 4200 dull in comparison to the 3200....less engaging power delivery, less exclusive, and poorer quality interior materials e.g. fake leather (so much so, that I now don't know where to go after the AC...had always assumed GS but not 100% sure. AM Vantage V8 perhaps?!).

Horses for courses though - would be boring if we all liked the same thing! I'm sure my opinion would be tainted if I'd had reliability problems with the 3200, but on my third one now and still waiting!

I have driven a 4200 spyder and while i liked drive i too found it not as interesting as when my turbos kick in....have not noticed fake leather though....

I love your avatar, what number is yours??

 

[Scarlan]

Forgot to add that the white AC Adam was referring too has been up for sale for well over a year now. As we all know, you can price your car/house/watch at whatever price you want but if you don't sell it in a year then I'd suggest the price might need looking at so maybe his choice of $60k is wildly ambitious?? Market forces - no matter what you are selling - will always dictate the price you'll eventually get....

Gary,
I think the reason this AC has struggled to sell is that nobody thinks it is a genuine AC because it is white rather than red, black or silver.
I saw a red Australian delivered AC advertised on Carsales over a year ago asking $75,000 and it was sold within a couple of days.
Stephen

 

[Gary687]

Hi Stephen

Blimey I missed that one!! Not sure how many AC's are in Oz but that white one is certainly causing confusion! IIIRC there was no definitive answer as to whether this was a genuine one or not was there? I know the normal reasoning for it not to be a real one as we've discussed it before but wasn't there some speculation that the factory did issue a few AC's that didn't conform to the normal colour/trim combination? Can't remember exactly....Anyhow, an email to Maserati would surely solve the issue? When I was chatting to them on email re-the green one that started this thread off, they couldn't have been more helpful and gave me lots of info about it so I'm sure they could tell with 100% certainty whether this was a real AC or not. If it was, would it increase it's value due to it being an already incredibly-rare AC but in an even more rare configuration or would it lessen it's value as all and sundry who know their Masers would assume it was a fake?? Who knows! All I do know is that he can't shift it at $60K!!

Anyhow, how has your beauty been treating you? Any unexpected nasty bills or still running sweetly??

G

 

[lozcb]

Asian spec AC's can differ slightly to uk and european spec ones , there was a guy in Hongkong that had an Ac in Green and with no glove box series no plate , it was eventaully proven to be an AC , definately worth getting on to Spa , the chassis no will reveal all , it amy well be able to get clarified at Maserati GB in Slough , worth giving paul a ring there quoting the chassis no if you can getb hold of it, i'll be happy to do it for you if you supply me the details



regards loz

 

[Gary687]

Hi Loz

Thanks for the offer but this isn't something I'm interested in buying, it's just a topic of fairly common conversation between the Aussie section of the forum, i.e. is it or isn't it an AC?? Ha ha!!

This is the link if you're bored -

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/...01-10946750?vertical=Car&cr=6&eapi=2&__N=1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965360 4294964988&distance=25&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~1&sort=default

Short of getting hold of him for the VIN then it'd be hard to tie down I'd suggest and I'd only be interested in doing that if I was going to buy - and I'm not so I don't really want to waste his or your time. If I was going to spend $60,000 I'd probably get one of the 4200 that are on car sales for $50,000-$60,000...or get one imported for me to my spec etc.

Thanks for the offer once again though

Cheers

G

 

[Easyplan66]

My you've had a very interesting and fun collection of cars!! Very jealous (but in a good way of course!) Also the perspective from an owner like yourself who has had many makes very interesting reading. As for the Aston well I love them too!! It will come as no surprise to you I'm sure to hear that an Aston over in UK that is, say 40,000 pounds would retail here as an Oz-delivered car for $150,000+!! Even imports will go for $125,000+ It's so unfair!!!

Arguably due to the 'fixed costs' of importing a car, a more expensive car may be the best way to go so if and when I ever manage to save enough, then I'll be back!

The Giulietta is really nice - we added leather and the twin roofs so it's a very nice place to be with a fairly astonishing engine. Just gotta get the Mrs to look after it now, which is a major battle in itself!!

Thanks for all the constructive comments though!

G

That's very interesting, it looks like there is money to be made importing an Aston
a £40k car here say $60k dollars sells for $125 what is the cost of import and tax ?

 

[adam01]

That's very interesting, it looks like there is money to be made importing an Aston
a £40k car here say $60k dollars sells for $125 what is the cost of import and tax ?

Rather than try to explain the complicated regime for taxing imports, use the link below and change the value (46,000)
Add cost of local compliance AM ?? but probably $20k+

http://aussieexotics.com/calculators/vehicle-import-costs/?value=46000

Regarding Astons, only certain models are allowed in, must be on a prescibed list called SEVS and from memory pre Feb 2008 build)

Not many come in due to cost and very limited serivice points other than dealer

hope this provides some insight

 

[dem maser]

Soo many rules and complications!!

They like that at customs with people from what i see and now it looks like cars get a similar treatment....

Very tough laws....

 

[Geofflyn]

Soo many rules and complications!!

They like that at customs with people from what i see and now it looks like cars get a similar treatment....

Very tough laws....

And mostly BS as with these cars there is no local industry to protect and that's what spawned these rules in the first place. Not like anyone wants too import a Ford Fiesta!!! All Masers are fully imported so why we have to pay outrageous taxes on cars that dont even compete with a local product is beyond comprehension. Oh I know....easy revenue for the Government.

 

[dem maser]

There it is!!

Governments are no different to the MAFIA.....

 

[Easyplan66]

It seems that a 2008 GT which we can buy for £42k or $63 sells for £133 or $200 even when you add the £69k or $89 import taxes that still leaves a
tidy tax free profit if its my own car..... Am I missing something

 

[dem maser]

I think thats why andy put this thread up andrew.....

We could prob do it oursleves no??

There are loads of rules but we can do it and make the profit.....

Anyone for an AC?? 25k to you aus cousins......

 

[Geofflyn]

It seems that a 2008 GT which we can buy for £42k or $63 sells for £133 or $200 even when you add the £69k or $89 import taxes that still leaves a
tidy tax free profit if its my own car..... Am I missing something

Yep you are. To add to complexity ( and Govt revenue) the rules don't allow you to privately import a GT. So the rules not only provide a tidy guaranteed profit for dealers andtaxfor Government but are structured in such away that you don't have choice. While the politicians debate free trade they implement rules which serve no purpose other than to assure commercial profits from restrictive trade practices which generate tax revenues. Grrrr.....

 

[dem maser]

What?! Really?!

MAFIA alright......

 

[adam01]

I think thats why andy put this thread up andrew.....

We could prob do it oursleves no??

There are loads of rules but we can do it and make the profit.....

Anyone for an AC?? 25k to you aus cousins......

By way of example, your 25k GB would cost $60k aud - workable only if u had a genuine buyer upfront.

 

[Geofflyn]

Yes, I totally support rules which protect significant numbers of jobs but IMO with luxury cars that are fully imported you Re not protecting any jobs because the people who buy these cars are not considering the local product and dealers who sell them employ miniscule numbers of people Indeed I would contend that these dealers would sell mor cars if they were cheaper and hence arguably create more jobs. But then again I am a capitalist.

 

[Easyplan66]

So only thing to do is find a local dealer in Oz and we are sorted......

 

[Gary687]

I'm with Geofflyn all the way on this one. No matter how you dress it up it is inherently unfair and does not do what it set out to do back in the day so is therefore a pointless exercise.....apart from the fact that they raise revenue from it of course. How could we forget that!! Coming from the UK originally, it makes me weep to see such exotica for sale (and arguably affordable) when you compare it to the boring stuff that is economically-viable over here. Anyway, I guess there's not much we can do about it. We certainly have lots of pluses to living over here but choice/cost of cars sure as **** ain't one of 'em!

 

[Gary687]

Now here's a surprise....

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001...serati-3200gt-6sp-2000-coupe?spr=true&login=1