Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - who owns one and is it epic?

MikeyMaser

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I've owned 2. A black one in 2017 when they first came out which I swapped for a blue one in 2020. I got bored of this very quickly (6 months and 1,500 miles) so got the QP V Sport GTS as a replacement, along with a Alfa 159 Ti 3.2 V6 and a Alfa GTV Cup!

The QFs are mad fast and agile but (IMHO) don't have the drama or occasion of a Maser.

EDIT: I found my original review of the QF here: https://www.sportsmaserati.com/index.php?threads/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-verde-aka-quattrofrommagio-is-here.23211/page-2#post-556379
 
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urquattrogus

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For those saying they "wouldn't drop 75k on an Alfa" Sold my 2017 car with 40K miles for £38,250 and bought an new unregistered dealer stock one for £61,600 inc the horrible VED. Original bought for £59,750. £23,350 to change! Obviously crazy used prices helped. Cheap performance motoring!

My post from another forum for those who would like to know about a comparison:

I have now completed 550 miles in my new 2021 Giulia Quadrifoglio, this replaced my March 2017 car which I had for 4.5 years and 40,000 miles.

A lot of people have asked about any differences, and there are certainly more than would first meet the eye. I’m still finding out a few of them, but so far I can summarise.

  • I’m absolutely delighted with the new car, the Montreal Green Paint is stunning! I love it and it seems to draw many admiring glances.
  • The perceived quality, fit and finish, lack of vibrations etc feels several notches above my 2017 car.
  • The added port injection does make the car idle more smoothly than my 2017 car ever did.
  • The engine, drivetrain and performance feel every bit as potent, if not slightly more so than my 2017 car. The engine remains a delight!
  • Power still get’s pulled too easily in Dynamic mode, leading to those “why isn’t it going yet” moments; switching to Race fixes this, in the dry at least
  • The brakes are much better than the 2017 car in feel and calibration, more progressive and with better feel, it is also much better at stop and start traffic, the combination of smoother brakes and slightly different torque converter stall behaviour are much better.
  • The thicker glass makes for less road/wind noise.
  • Plugging the vacuum lines for the rear exhaust and leaving the sound in race sound in all modes permanently is a must do in my book. I did this on my old one, and with the new one being a little more refined it’s definitely a must.
  • The sound is still very good, about 85% of the old one, but I do miss the rifle crack bangs of some of the old gearshifts, I suspect the GPF filters and new noise regs are to blame.
  • The new centre console is much more practical than the old one and all the switches feel better, as does the new gear selector.
  • The tech is hugely moved on from before, more so than I thought.
  • The apple Carplay integration is brilliant and slick.
  • The door bins don’t vibrate and rattle when you turn the music up like the old one could do sometimes.
  • Handsfree has the best call quality I’ve ever encountered.
  • I tried the Eng Custom solution briefly on my 2017 Giulia and it was **** in comparison, not least the call quality was not even nearly acceptable, so on the old one I kept it stock.
  • Autonomous features that actually work and are handy. I never thought I’d want them, but they can all be switched on/off at will. Radar Cruise works well, and the car can even steer on a motorway if you keep hands on the wheel, more useful than it sounds. It can also start and stop the car for you in a traffic jam, again, don’t knock until you’ve tried. Auto dip headlights also actually seem to work.
  • Split Fold seats and 5 seats are very welcome over my 4 seater 2017 with fixed rear seats.
  • My biggest concern remains the steering calibration and feel, this was in my view the standout feature of my last car.
  • The steering feels rather different on the new car.
  • It’s heavier in most modes than before, especially so in Dynamic and Race.
  • It’s slower in the middle of the rack/dead centre, not as flighty as before.
  • When you do turn off the centre is does turn in quickly, almost more directly than before but it doesn’t “tip in” as easily.
  • Once you have tipped it into a corner it feels like less play to begin with, but when pushing really hard I’m not sure if the springs are slightly higher or softer. Maybe the damping is harder but the springs slightly softer. Bear in mind this is compared to my low ride height 2017 car!
  • I found it harder work/more effortful to drive very quickly as you are muscling the steering more. It’s now closer to German cars than it was, less nervous/hyper reactive in the straight ahead, and the steering weights up more on your turn.
  • Exacerbating this is that the new steering wheel is fatter and not as nice as the old one, but I doubt it could be swapped for the old one due to the autonomous features etc. It’s still a nice wheel, and no one would complain if we had not used the old one. The old one was fat at the bottom but much thinner at the top.
  • The amazing front end grip is still there but it does feel quite different as to how you arrive at that.
  • It is by no means a deal breaker for the new car, but I would like to find out about geometry changes and rack calibration; I’m also curious as to spring differences over the years, could I fit 2017 springs or KW Springs for example??
  • In summary, I love my new car and wouldn’t change back! But I am a bit narked that the dared to change the steering at all!!!
I use this car as a daily driver, not just as a weekend car, I have older cars for that purpose. I did enjoy a couple of track days in my old one though, so I was pretty famili
 

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gb-gta

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Looks great in green.
My suspicion is that the steering changes have something to do with requirements for the autonomous stuff/electronics. Seems an odd change otherwise, to alter the standout feature of the original for the worse. Rest of the changes sound well worthwhile though.
 

urquattrogus

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Dissapointingly it seems Alfa have changed a lot, mostly because people complained of wheel skipping/ackerman effect when turning tightly at low speed. This was only an issue of Corsa tyres on the old car, even then not really an issue.

Can't believe it but I now have confirmation that my new car has different lower drop links, different front shocks, different springs and maybe even a different front hub carrier.

Different steering rack too, but that is probably for the autonomous capability.

I've been to Jamie Porter at the Alfa workshop and he has driven my car and compared it with the 2017 he owns, then looked up stuff on the parts cat.

We both agree the new car is softer and the steering feel is not as good. It still has the grip but not the same responses or level of feel.

The car also dives and pitches a bit more under braking/acceleration.

Very disappointing, trying to take a case up with Alfa, or may pay Jamie to change it back to the old setup.

I thought I was buying an almost mechanically identical car with some interior updates and a mild facelift, it seems not!

The car is still great, but it isn't as magic as the old one. 2017 car just felt perfect to me, as close to perfect of any car I've owned anyway.

What a very Alfa thing to do, mess with something that was for most people the standout feature of the car!
 

urquattrogus

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1100 miles in the Green car and now cutting my losses and selling back.

Can't back the car as there is no mechanical fault, but I drove another MY21 car and it felt the same.

So ****** off about this; time to move on and cut the thankfully small losses.