4200 on Pistonheads

B_Tank88

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This one has been on pistonheads a while now and I think has been reduced a few grand over the last few months.

It looks really good, very low mileage facelift and I think it's a nice colour.

Thought's on why it's not sold yet?
 

FIFTY

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MOT history is pretty clean as well.

Crazy... My car must be worth .50p at the moment
 

Phil H

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It has a good MOT history and there's nothing obvious to suggest a problem, except perhaps the current market for V8's and silly scaremongering about Maseratis. If I was in the market for one I think I'd at least call to ask a few key questions, especially at that price.

PH
 

TimR

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MOT history is pretty clean as well.

Crazy... My car must be worth .50p at the moment
About that I reckon.....! :as001:

It has a good MOT history and there's nothing obvious to suggest a problem, except perhaps the current market for V8's and silly scaremongering about Maseratis. If I was in the market for one I think I'd at least call to ask a few key questions, especially at that price.

PH
Looks good - buyers market...!
 

philw696

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Wow what a Stunning colour combination and silver calipers too.
Just needs a mesh grille and perfect.
 

TimR

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Im going to have to steer clear of this thread as I ve got a quid burning a hole in my pocket as we speak..>!!
 

TimR

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You guys keep cr4pping on about calipers and post pictures in which they are barely discernible...
Just like to point out, once you go black....:)
 

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Hawk13

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It has a good MOT history and there's nothing obvious to suggest a problem, except perhaps the current market for V8's and silly scaremongering about Maseratis. If I was in the market for one I think I'd at least call to ask a few key questions, especially at that price.

PH
I think that part of the problem is not necessarily the scare mongering but the truth in terms of running costs. For most people, this is not going to be a daily driver or a surefire investment so you have REALLY got to want a Maserati to face the wife and explain that it is likely to cost 25% of the sale price in servicing / running costs over the next 2 years.

There's plenty of weekend cars around at the 12k price point that come with greater peace of mind. And compare that to say a Porsche 911 that you can run as an everyday car and can be lacking service history etc and still sell for stupid money..... Or other German that you could sell to wife as daily driver / family car, I can see why they are not shifting.

That said, it's a bloody Maserati and a bargain one at that!!
 

flexwing

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Yep, I know a wee bit about this car. Been tracking it for a while and almost pressed the button. The main point is that it would appear none of the big ticket items have been addressed. ie suspension components, clutch reads 56%, heater matrix etc.
On the other hand it is low mileage, serviced every year and is absolutely straight. So, it would appear to be great value for money, but you may have a shed load of deferred maintenance waiting to happen. Discuss!
 

Spartacus

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That clutch could go on forever . Mines at 85% and shows no signs of going . My last one went at 37% . If its gone over 50% it will probably go all the way as it does nt have dodgy spring tangs . That car is a stone cold bargain . And its even got larini boxes on it . Some one buy it quick !
 

hardingdalouis

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That clutch could go on forever . Mines at 85% and shows no signs of going . My last one went at 37% . If its gone over 50% it will probably go all the way as it does nt have dodgy spring tangs . That car is a stone cold bargain . And its even got larini boxes on it . Some one buy it quick !
Totally agree. Wish I had seen it 4 weeks ago!


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philw696

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I have run two 4200 both for 4 years a piece and never put a clutch in either.
Avoid Auto mode and drive them properly keep everything moving less chance for things to fail, corrode or rust the list goes on.
 

TimR

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A £300 inspection pre purchase, will tell you everything you need to know....

You cant give the d4mn things away...!? o_O
 

Phil H

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I think that part of the problem is not necessarily the scare mongering but the truth in terms of running costs. For most people, this is not going to be a daily driver or a surefire investment so you have REALLY got to want a Maserati to face the wife and explain that it is likely to cost 25% of the sale price in servicing / running costs over the next 2 years.

There's plenty of weekend cars around at the 12k price point that come with greater peace of mind. And compare that to say a Porsche 911 that you can run as an everyday car and can be lacking service history etc and still sell for stupid money..... Or other German that you could sell to wife as daily driver / family car, I can see why they are not shifting.

That said, it's a bloody Maserati and a bargain one at that!!
"Sell to the wife" or 'Sell the wife'
Only joking -honest
 

Paul4200

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I have recently bought a 4200. I do disagree about the future values of the cars. There are a few special editions which may attract collectors and maintain very high prices today?

At present the 4200's are the supercar bargain and I think prices will bounce back over a few years. The entire classic car market has been in freefall since 2016. One or two cars buck the trend. Porsche made loads more cars than Maserati. The prices for some Porsche cars are unsustainable and honestly unrealistic. When you get bad cars tarted up and sold for inflated sums the market will correct itself. Last year was a terrible year in the classic trade. This year has been better, if realistic prices were asked. My mates in the trade say that. A customer comes in having paid X for a car and spent Y and now wants XY. The car is only worth what the market will pay. Hence a lot of cars in particular Ferrari and Porsche are advertised for silly money which will never be realised. Others desperate to believe their cars are worth 2017 prices hang on in there and advertise cars at these silly prices or ask dealers to do SOR at these silly prices.

Some cars get ignored by the market. When cars become too cheap they are bought by people who cant afford them who then depress the values further when they try to offload cars or offload cars which lots of problems due to neglect or abuse. Normally they disappear. What stays up and what will always be good is the well looked after good cars.

The old rule of thumb for Italian supercars was 20% came to the UK. Now that we have richer RHD export markets like Malaysia Japan and Australia RHD cars sales are no longer confined to these shores. About 100 approx. Countachs have apparently gone abroad of the approx. 200 imported. Of the 13200 odd 4200's made that means about 2600 may have come to the UK???. the Government web site suggests half that number? Of the 214 manual RHD cars about 192 left here?

A Maserati was always a connoisseurs car. Fiat group missed the marketing chance to protect and promote the history. In the trade it was thought the marketing of the Ghibili was a disaster. Too expensive; too expensive servicing and lack of finance deals. This is from people in the high level trade. The pursuit of volume to take on BMW and Mercedes undermined brand value and was optimistic without putting other measures in place to compete. I think the depressed prices stem from that.

I think in future buyers will be kinder to these older cars. I wouldn't panic. indeed I have gone against the trend and bought one! I hope I am right.

Even if I am wrong, then I am going to enjoy the car and ownership of it and use it as I do with my other cars. Italian cars are there to drive, not to sit and be polished. I have 6 other old Italian cars. I enjoy them, like driving them and admire their beauty. I don't admire the beauty of my Audi A8!

So to recast an old British expression:

Keep calm and have a bloody good carry on!

Paul

PS I had a profile paul328 which I cant access in case anyone recognises the poor grammar!