4200 Motor Mount Replacement

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Hello guys, working under car today and noticed that the oil pipe that comes out of the back of the pump (2003 Spyder 6mt) is hard against the crossmember. There is no space between the pipe and the crossmember. I'm worried that engine movement will wear/ break the pipe or worse, pump ($3000). Is this an indication that my motor mounts need replacing? Thanks for any comments.
 
Oishi said:
Hello guys, working under car today and noticed that the oil pipe that comes out of the back of the pump (2003 Spyder 6mt) is hard against the crossmember. There is no space between the pipe and the crossmember. I'm worried that engine movement will wear/ break the pipe or worse, pump ($3000). Is this an indication that my motor mounts need replacing? Thanks for any comments.
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Doesn’t sound right, try jack the engine up on the bellhousing and see if there is much movement in the mounts.
Post some photos if you can, do the mounts look perished from underneath?
 
Thanks, will try to post photos later, having trouble getting the lower heat shields off. Does anyone know if there is enough flex in the mountings (I'm thinking torq tube/ bellhousing) to safely raise engine? Also Scuderia lists 185361 for $133 but must be ordered, and 225839 in stock for $244. The later is for a QP, thoughts?
 
Someone last year found the inner of his gear box mounting was spongy. Having filled with leaking hydraulic fluid. Think it was the chap with the BF GS - jacked up on a sloping driveway (wince). Not seen him post for a while - maybe the worst happened (wince). I digress. If your engine mounts are spongy it might be worth investigating.
 
Oishi said:
Thanks, will try to post photos later, having trouble getting the lower heat shields off. Does anyone know if there is enough flex in the mountings (I'm thinking torq tube/ bellhousing) to safely raise engine? Also Scuderia lists 185361 for $133 but must be ordered, and 225839 in stock for $244. The later is for a QP, thoughts?
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Jack up with block of wood on the bell housing / back of the engine Just to take the weight to check.
Looking at Eurospares only 225839 are available now same as the QP ones.

 
Navcorr said:
Someone last year found the inner of his gear box mounting was spongy. Having filled with leaking hydraulic fluid. Think it was the chap with the BF GS - jacked up on a sloping driveway (wince). Not seen him post for a while - maybe the worst happened (wince). I digress. If your engine mounts are spongy it might be worth investigating.
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Yes not seen him on the forum for a while, the Japanese import GS?
Hope he’s ok as the jacking up did look a bit precarious
 
Thanks, does anyone know if 196865 is a replacement? I checked Scuderia, Ricambi, and Eurospares, any others?
 
From my experience it's best to check the motor mounts looking at the top of the motor mount with a mirror. There is usually a metal shield surrounding the top of the mount to prevent degradation form heat. If this shield is within 1/8 inch from the frame I would change them out. The drivers side mount seems to take the brunt of wear because of engine rotation. A brand new mount will have a flexible bottom because they are filled with fluid. The older and more used they become, the bottom bulge becomes more pronounced. These mounts seem to last about 5years/40000 mi approx.in my experience.
 

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Hi all,

new here and hopefull you can help.
I have (in Greece) a 4200 gt manual (2002). I replaced the motor and transmission mounts with the ones from FD but I have vibrations between 4200-4700. I am in search for OEM ones, the originals (181365 engine mount, 186908 transmission mount) are not available as you know. Shall I order 3 x 225839 or 2x225839 for engine and 196865 for transmission? Does anyone made such a switch?

Thanks a lot,
Marios
 
Thanks for the answer. You mean the engine mounts with part nr 269817? Direct replacement or needed adjustment?
What about transmission mounts? What did you use?
Thanks again
 
Yes replaced only engine with 269817.
I have not looked at gearbox one yet.
The mounts don’t have captive nuts like the originals but access is ok to fit a normal nut/bolt, everything else is the same.

Gp79

Thread 'Project 4200'

Morning all,

Bought myself a project 4200 for not a lot - eBay non reserve
RX53UUA or previous M444SRA.

Does anyone know the car?
I seem to sort of recognise the previous private plate.

anyway bought as a non runner as wouldn’t start with gearbox light on.
After a bit of diagnostics (no scanner just using logic!) and a used clutch release bearing with f1 sensor I got the fault cleared and started the car.

Then went onto fit the used f1 / clutch sensor through a hole in the bellhousing so wasn’t actually that bad apart from dropping the exhaust out the way.

Plan to improve it as...
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Post 98 on my rebuild thread
 
How come and you chose the Ferrari alternative instead of the ones for Quattroporte (225839)?

I must change the gearbox mount as well. Do you have any clue?
 
Marios said:
How come and you chose the Ferrari alternative instead of the ones for Quattroporte (225839)?

I must change the gearbox mount as well. Do you have any clue?
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Just down to cost, I saw those California ones were a fair bit cheaper and engines are F136 family as well.
The other ones where shot so I had nothing to lose.
 
I get it. Since it works, it seems you made the right choice.
Do you (or anyone else of course) have any clue about transmission mount?
 
Hi again, sorry to be a pita. I just can't find a thread where someone confirms the successful replacement of the gearbox mount.
I am confused if I have to use 3x225839 (engine mounts of Quattroporte) or the ones from California, or if I shall use 2 of those for the engine and one 196865 (gearbox mount of Quattroporte/Granturismo) for the gearbox?

Can someone please advise?
 
maseratimike7

Post in thread 'GS Gearbox Flex Mount Removal '

conaero said:
No, with the torque tube still connected the box will drop an inch, disconnect the crossmember with the gearbox on a jack. Then you can spin the mount off, Simple’s.
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Thanks, what would you suggest to twist it off, used an oil filter wrench on the mount and it snapped as I cannot loosen the upper bolt.

Seems to be super tight or seized!



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