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Bebs

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I wonder what the comparison would look like for OEM discs and pads v carbon
I looked into various options and I have to say there was very little in it from OEM to Zep’s larger diameter front and rears, it really was a no brainer for the extra stopping power (and they just look spectacular)
I can’t comment on Carbons as I only drive a cheap GT-S, not a Strad :worried1:
 

Ewan

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Wow, how come? I thought you were thoroughly devoted to the 2-seater series.
I’d always take a 2 seat Strad over a 4 seat Strad. But just decided that I didn’t actually need a Strad at all. Lovely car, just not ideal for my current journey profile.
 

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18k for brakes! Yikes!
In 35k miles too, by my sums it’s cost more to run in brakes than fuel, even at todays prices.

My advice, just don’t slow down for corners.
 

Strad

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I’m sure there’s a man-maths equation that makes the difference between the many many sets of steel discs / inferior pads against the once in a lifetime carbon ceramics change, an altogether acceptable prospect?!
If the discs do 90,000 miles, I have another 77,000 miles of Stradale theatre and smiles ahead before I start worrying about replacing them!
“One Life, Live it”……. sorry that was for the Defender Forum……
 

Gazcw

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18k for brakes! Yikes!
In 35k miles too, by my sums it’s cost more to run in brakes than fuel, even at todays prices.

My advice, just don’t slow down for corners.
May have been tracked a little. You never know.
I was wondering if brake pads for CC discs were so expensive due to the low volume of production/sales until I bought some rear pads, fitting kit and sensors for my car through a Bentley contact for £200 delivered. Having paid over £600 less than RRP I realised it's yet another tax applied for no other reason than to excessively profit from them.
Just been reading that the corvette zr1 and Bentley use the same ccm discs as the 430 which I assume is the same as the Strad. Could be an interesting test. Zr1 discs are around 900-1k
 

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May have been tracked a little. You never know.

Just been reading that the corvette zr1 and Bentley use the same ccm discs as the 430 which I assume is the same as the Strad. Could be an interesting test. Zr1 discs are around 900-1k

Possibly rear discs, but defo not Bentley fronts - they are monumentally immense, the largest fitted to any road car.
 

Gazcw

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Possibly rear discs, but defo not Bentley fronts - they are monumentally immense, the largest fitted to any road car.
No detail unfortunately. I also just read a very old post from voicey that Autofficina have fitted Porsche ccm to a strad.
 

gb-gta

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I’m sure there’s a man-maths equation that makes the difference between the many many sets of steel discs / inferior pads against the once in a lifetime carbon ceramics change, an altogether acceptable prospect?!
If the discs do 90,000 miles, I have another 77,000 miles of Stradale theatre and smiles ahead before I start worrying about replacing them!
“One Life, Live it”……. sorry that was for the Defender Forum……
If you’ve only done 13k miles in 8 years or so then yes, they probably will be once in a lifetime!
To get to 90k miles will take you another 48 years at that rate of use. :)
 

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CCBs are a funny thing. When Matt inspected my Strad he noted the rear disks had been replaced and the car had done less than 10k miles. Given the fronts were perfect something outside of wear and tear must have happened. Good for me, not so for the previous owner. What I can’t understand is why they are still so expensive to replace other than pure profiteering. Cars have had them since at least the early 2000’s so the excuse of new tech can’t be used and a lot of modern performance cars have them. What do electric cars use, steel or CCB? Or something else?

On the point of break dust, I didn’t believe it until I got mine. I always thought most of the stuff stuck to my wheels was general grime and road debris. It’s not as it happens, it’s almost all brake dust. My Strad can be quite dirty but the wheels almost spotless. Perfect for my ocd and an unexpected benefit.
 

Gazcw

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I looked into various options and I have to say there was very little in it from OEM to Zep’s larger diameter front and rears, it really was a no brainer for the extra stopping power (and they just look spectacular)
I can’t comment on Carbons as I only drive a cheap GT-S, not a Strad :worried1:
If you bought cheap cafe creme you could afford one. :p;)
 

Strad

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If you’ve only done 13k miles in 8 years or so then yes, they probably will be once in a lifetime!
To get to 90k miles will take you another 48 years at that rate of use. :)
She’s a July 2016 car but I’m not expecting to wear them out any time soon - thankfully!
It’s good to see the chat about other options as £18k is just bonkers. You can’t swap them for cheaper steel discs though, the CC’s are a massive part of a Stradale’s soul…..
 

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CCBs are a funny thing. When Matt inspected my Strad he noted the rear disks had been replaced and the car had done less than 10k miles. Given the fronts were perfect something outside of wear and tear must have happened. Good for me, not so for the previous owner. What I can’t understand is why they are still so expensive to replace other than pure profiteering. Cars have had them since at least the early 2000’s so the excuse of new tech can’t be used and a lot of modern performance cars have them. What do electric cars use, steel or CCB? Or something else?

On the point of break dust, I didn’t believe it until I got mine. I always thought most of the stuff stuck to my wheels was general grime and road debris. It’s not as it happens, it’s almost all brake dust. My Strad can be quite dirty but the wheels almost spotless. Perfect for my ocd and an unexpected benefit.

That is odd indeed. I think the most likely culprits are either a stone getting wedged between the disc and pad or worn pads down to the metal pins scoring the discs. Otherwise why?
 

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May have been tracked a little. You never know.

Just been reading that the corvette zr1 and Bentley use the same ccm discs as the 430 which I assume is the same as the Strad. Could be an interesting test. Zr1 discs are around 900-1k

Tracked discs should be ok provided they are cooled, but some track days don't give a cool down lap so maybe that's the reason.

I'm convinced that the Corvette suggestion, or another make/model, is likely as in the end they are "just" Brembo carbons with a fancy name on the caliper. I think Audi, Porsche, Lambo etc are all worth a look. Maybe some other USA stuff too like the mad Hellcats and so on.
 

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Tracked discs should be ok provided they are cooled, but some track days don't give a cool down lap so maybe that's the reason.

I'm convinced that the Corvette suggestion, or another make/model, is likely as in the end they are "just" Brembo carbons with a fancy name on the caliper. I think Audi, Porsche, Lambo etc are all worth a look. Maybe some other USA stuff too like the mad Hellcats and so on.
Lots of refurbing going on now too.
 

Gazcw

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Where? The German guys that did it went to the wall. Do you know of someone else?
Do you mean Rebrake? I think they are still going. Lots of refurbing was aimed at people doing it not the amount of companies btw.
 

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That is odd indeed. I think the most likely culprits are either a stone getting wedged between the disc and pad or worn pads down to the metal pins scoring the discs. Otherwise why?

Traction and stability control, almost all systems use the rear brakes a lot. Pretty common for rears to wear much quicker than fronts if driven like a tool.