Joining the electric car club
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rockits
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I agree with the sentiment here to keep stuff for longer. To repair not replace where we can. Problem and responsibility often is at the point of manufacturer if they produce a product designed to fail or only last so long. Or do not offer parts or support for very long.
I currently have a daily 2004 Mercedes E500 Estate with 177k miles that is almost as new inside and still feels like it has another 177k miles in it with ease.
I currently have a daily 2004 Mercedes E500 Estate with 177k miles that is almost as new inside and still feels like it has another 177k miles in it with ease.
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I also have no interest in competing or keeping up with the Jones's to get the next best thing every 5 mins.
Just bought a 3 year old Samsung 65" TV for the playroom outbuilding for £600 that was a £3k flagship TV 3 years ago and the new version is also £3k! Madness to pay £3k IMHO.
The E500 Merc was under £5k and is a bomb proof 5.0 litre V8 with 7 seats, air suspension, tons of spec so great VFM IMHO.
Just bought a 3 year old Samsung 65" TV for the playroom outbuilding for £600 that was a £3k flagship TV 3 years ago and the new version is also £3k! Madness to pay £3k IMHO.
The E500 Merc was under £5k and is a bomb proof 5.0 litre V8 with 7 seats, air suspension, tons of spec so great VFM IMHO.
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Certainly doesn't improve the content.
Of course the risk is that the 3 year old one *may* be more prone to failure, and / or may go out of support which may (or may not be) an issue.
My Mac server is 8 years old and still keeps wanting me to upgrade to the current version of Mac OS. The only reason I don't is because I'd have to re-install my mailserver.
This is a 2018 device and is perfectly happy running the latest.
Mrs C's Airs are that kind of age as well. I think the one that my Zwift rig is on is even older. So the argument does not always hold
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Certainly doesn't improve the content.
Of course the risk is that the 3 year old one *may* be more prone to failure, and / or may go out of support which may (or may not be) an issue.
My Mac server is 8 years old and still keeps wanting me to upgrade to the current version of Mac OS. The only reason I don't is because I'd have to re-install my mailserver.
This is a 2018 device and is perfectly happy running the latest.
Mrs C's Airs are that kind of age as well. I think the one that my Zwift rig is on is even older. So the argument does not always hold
C
Totally agree. The TV came with the transferable balance of the 5 year warranty too so we have some decent piece of mind there.
As you say with your Mac Server there is plenty of reasons and options to sweat older perfectly fine/usable assets for longer.
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zagatoes30
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There can't be many who can say that.
I have a friend who tells me she has never been in a McDonalds
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Wish I could say the latter! Though it's been about a decade since I've been and the last trips were for their black coffee, which isn't the worst.
It's not that I've never had a TV. Just haven't had one since 2018, and it's been glorious.
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I’m also a keeper, I also don’t like to finance if at all possible - save and buy instead of the other way around. I‘m replacing my 2012 X5 with a new Defender this week which will also be a keeper (at least that is the plan). Same for TV’s and devices, unless technology advances really make a difference I won’t upgrade for the sake of keeping up with the Joneses. I rather buy a top of the range model that will last for a bit.
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I still have my Pioneer plasmas too! One is about 17 years old, the other one of the last made. They have been demoted into secondary use so not on that frequently, which is probably a good thing as plasmas use a lot more power to run than current tech. Plasma technology was too expensive to last commercially (buyers not prepared to pay a large premium for the extra 5% over an LCD). I bought the current OLED 3 or 4 years ago and plan to keep that long term too.
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This got me thinking about the tech I have and mostly my buy the best at the time mentality has served me well
Computers / Laptops all Apple and the newest is my MacBook Pro 2017, we do have one 2022 Gaming PC running windows but that is the youngest daughters and I don't get involved with that
Hi-Fi - Mainly Naim with a Tag McLaren CD and B&W Speakers, Speakers 1999, Cd 2003 and Amps 2009 & 2011
TVs - All secondary and children's TVs 3-5 years old, main lounge TV was replaced this year but that was primarily driven by me wanting to get the best out of my PS5
Phones & Tablets is where we book the trend, oldest phone we have is 2020 with the other 3 being 2021 & 2022, same with Tablets we have 3 all 2020 onwards
Computers / Laptops all Apple and the newest is my MacBook Pro 2017, we do have one 2022 Gaming PC running windows but that is the youngest daughters and I don't get involved with that
Hi-Fi - Mainly Naim with a Tag McLaren CD and B&W Speakers, Speakers 1999, Cd 2003 and Amps 2009 & 2011
TVs - All secondary and children's TVs 3-5 years old, main lounge TV was replaced this year but that was primarily driven by me wanting to get the best out of my PS5
Phones & Tablets is where we book the trend, oldest phone we have is 2020 with the other 3 being 2021 & 2022, same with Tablets we have 3 all 2020 onwards
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A new plant-based sustainable petrol can be bought by UK motorists for the first time.
Fuel specialist Coryton has developed Sustain Classic, which uses second-generation biofuel material and promises at least a 65 per cent reduction in greenhouse gases versus traditional petrol.
Costing from £3.80 a litre, it uses carbon that already exists in the atmosphere that plants absorb. It means cars don’t release extra CO2 ‘locked’ in usual fossil fuels. Although it has been designed for classic cars, it can also be used in any vehicle that runs on standard petrol.
Fuel specialist Coryton has developed Sustain Classic, which uses second-generation biofuel material and promises at least a 65 per cent reduction in greenhouse gases versus traditional petrol.
Costing from £3.80 a litre, it uses carbon that already exists in the atmosphere that plants absorb. It means cars don’t release extra CO2 ‘locked’ in usual fossil fuels. Although it has been designed for classic cars, it can also be used in any vehicle that runs on standard petrol.
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dickygrace
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Took that from a trade publication, surely against EV’s the CO2 footprint would be substantially less.
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Nice Aston. Same blue as mine.
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It depends. How much energy is required to make the fuel will impact the footprint. And it's not just about overall CO2. We're moving to a 'keep the air in this area clean by using EVs' so moving the CO2 emission 'somewhere else'
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Good point, it’s a calculation with endless variables.
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Also depends on what it’s made from. If it’s come from sugar cane where they’ve chopped down half of the Amazon or Borneo to grow it not so good, if it’s a by-product of existing farming, as some is, then ok.
Le Mans and WRC have been using 100% biofuels for a couple of years.
Le Mans and WRC have been using 100% biofuels for a couple of years.