Are you worried yet.

Wanderer · Sep 5, 2020

Wack61 said:
Anyone holidaying outside the UK is really taking a chance this year
I was listening to the BBC yesterday , people have spent a fortune trying to get back from Portugal to England before the government announcement than never came
If 3 people land in the UK from the same destination in Portugal on the same plane , one English, one Scottish and one Welsh the Welsh and Scottish have to go straight home and isolate for 14 days but the English one can go shopping but can't visit Scotland or Wales for 2 weeks

It's no wonder people are ** off

I'm faced with going back to Luxembourg before Xmas and the end of free movement, which I don't mind, since we should be in the office by then and some social interaction. Kind of miss LU/BE now after feeling locked-in there, UK is pisssing me off day-by-day but everything I have is here, so I'm in a dilemma.

Took the opportunity to learn some French so that's good, and generally life is better and less fraught over there and at 59 I could do with lots of less fraught, so....

Silvercat · Sep 5, 2020

Wack61 said:
Anyone holidaying outside the UK is really taking a chance this year
I was listening to the BBC yesterday , people have spent a fortune trying to get back from Portugal to England before the government announcement than never came
If 3 people land in the UK from the same destination in Portugal on the same plane , one English, one Scottish and one Welsh the Welsh and Scottish have to go straight home and isolate for 14 days but the English one can go shopping but can't visit Scotland or Wales for 2 weeks

It's no wonder people are ** off

Like I pointed out...letting devolved govts handle this issue has caused nothing but confusion and chaos. No wonder the public are hacked off.

Silvercat · Sep 5, 2020

dgmx5 said:
FTFY

Your opinion ..not mine.

philw696 · Sep 5, 2020

Wanderer said:
I'm faced with going back to Luxembourg before Xmas and the end of free movement, which I don't mind, since we should be in the office by then and some social interaction. Kind of miss LU/BE now after feeling locked-in there, UK is pisssing me off day-by-day but everything I have is here, so I'm in a dilemma.

Took the opportunity to learn some French so that's good, and generally life is better and less fraught over there and at 59 I could do with lots of less fraught, so....

I'm 58 and loving every bit of living my life here in France.
Think it was one of my better moves in life for sure.

Wanderer · Sep 5, 2020

philw696 said:
I'm 58 and loving every bit of living my life here in France.
Think it was one of my better moves in life for sure.

I understand, but I have my house and two kids in it (18 and 25) in UK - I could sever them off and sell the house and go 100% Lux, but I can't and realistically they cant afford to take it on.

Just wish my kids had the same wanderlust as me! But things can change, they've both recently hooked up with partners so.....

So fact is I cant really settle in LU/BE for now since I am forced into house sharing etc as I still have a UK mortgage, and at 59.....

Those are the cards I've been dealt, I deal with them, not bleating!

How's your French? Mine has improved a lot, I'm loving that. I was in Denmark before and it seems there no-one at all speaks Danish so no way to learn!

philw696 · Sep 5, 2020

@Wanderer
Yeah I have a house in the UK currently for sale and two grown up kids independent but still need help at times.
Thankfully bought the house here mortgage free so cheap living for now.
The language is not easy but I'm trying and thankfully I have my Ms French.
Spent a lot of last year working in Sweden and it's all English spoken.
Everywhere I went for Toyota last year around Europe is spoken in English.

Wanderer · Sep 5, 2020

philw696 said:
@Wanderer
Yeah I have a house in the UK currently for sale and two grown up kids independent but still need help at times.
Thankfully bought the house here mortgage free so cheap living for now.
The language is not easy but I'm trying and thankfully I have my Ms French.
Spent a lot of last year working in Sweden and it's all English spoken.
Everywhere I went for Toyota last year around Europe is spoken in English.

Here (or there!) in Arlon where I live normally, you do need French, and Belgian French which is subtly different. I love language tho its not a problem, just takes time.

The day I stop love being challenged is the day I die, it's what life is all about, I can't stand not being tasked and I could never retired so hopefully as a frontalier I can settle as a Luxembourger and live long enough to enjoy infirmaty and leave the UK to the kids!

Wack61 · Sep 5, 2020

philw696 said:
@Wanderer
Yeah I have a house in the UK currently for sale and two grown up kids independent but still need help at times.
Thankfully bought the house here mortgage free so cheap living for now.
The language is not easy but I'm trying and thankfully I have my Ms French.
Spent a lot of last year working in Sweden and it's all English spoken.
Everywhere I went for Toyota last year around Europe is spoken in English.

I'd love to move to France, iIm mortgage free at 59 but had kids too late, they're 20 & 23 , I'll be on a zimmer by the time they leave home the rate they're going, which is why I've replaced a mustang with a motorhome , my wife doesn't work Fridays so we're going to get as many long weekends in as we can in the UK then when europe gets more open travel much further afield.

The only thing that would worry me about leaving the UK is something I was unaware of until recently, once you're gone for 5 years that's it , you're no longer entitled to reside in Britain

I only found that out from a TV show last week when a woman who looked in her 80s arrived on a plane from SA with her british passport and expected to just walk into a flat and no doubt free health care despite leaving in the 1960s

"I'm not expecting a palace , just somewhere to sleep and cook a meal"

OK then

Wanderer · Sep 5, 2020

Wack61 said:
I'd love to move to France, iIm mortgage free at 59 but had kids too late, they're 20 & 23 , I'll be on a zimmer by the time they leave home the rate they're going, which is why I've replaced a mustang with a motorhome , my wife doesn't work Fridays so we're going to get as many long weekends in as we can in the UK then when europe gets more open travel much further afield.

The only thing that would worry me about leaving the UK is something I was unaware of until recently, once you're gone for 5 years that's it , you're no longer entitled to reside in Britain

I only found that out from a TV show last week when a woman who looked in her 80s arrived on a plane from SA with her british passport and expected to just walk into a flat and no doubt free health care despite leaving in the 1960s

"I'm not expecting a palace , just somewhere to sleep and cook a meal"

OK then

U can reside in UK if your are a citizen, anytime, no question, just you cant have any benefits etc...

If you only have ILR (Indefinate Leave To Remain) ie residency only not citizen, you lose that after two years unless you re-enter UK are as a resident and not as a visitor which the IO (Immigration Officer) will try to do.

I know this stuff, my partner is Russian and it was hard, we didn't want to marry for visa so we did it the convoluted way and it worked and also made me a bit of an expert on UK and EU immigration law....

Silvercat · Sep 5, 2020

philw696 said:
I'm 58 and loving every bit of living my life here in France.
Think it was one of my better moves in life for sure.

Same here Phil... but I ended up in Cumbria!

Wack61 · Sep 5, 2020

Wanderer said:
U can reside in UK if your are a citizen, anytime, no question, just you cant have any benefits etc...

If you only have ILR (Indefinate Leave To Remain) ie residency only not citizen, you lose that after two years unless you re-enter UK are as a resident and not as a visitor which the IO (Immigration Officer) will try to do.

I know this stuff, my partner is Russian and it was hard, we didn't want to marry for visa so we did it the convoluted way and it worked and also made me a bit of an expert on UK and EU immigration law....

Right, she had a British passport but moved in the 60s , they let her in but sent her to the council for evaluation , it was pretty obvious she wanted taking care of for free

Anyway, this bought a smile to my face

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Wattie · Sep 5, 2020

Wack61 said:
The only thing that would worry me about leaving the UK is something I was unaware of until recently, once you're gone for 5 years that's it , you're no longer entitled to reside in Britain

I’d say that was a positive.
Honestly, I used to think the UK was the be all and end all.....then I moved out. Spells in the Middle East, Cyprus and now Oz over the last 20years have given me experiences and a far more fun and fulfilled outdoor lifestyle than the Uk could ever do.

To anyone thinking about it, I say go for it.

CatmanV2 · Sep 5, 2020

philw696 said:
I'm 58 and loving every bit of living my life here in France.

I would emigrate in a heartbeat. Well would take a couple, but you get the idea.

Except
Parents
Mrs C's idea of fun
European Road trips
English countryside

Pretty much in that order.

And I wouldn't pick France. Not because I don't like France, I love it, it's just that if I was going to go I'd go about as far as you can without starting to come back the other way

C

Wattie · Sep 5, 2020

CatmanV2 said:
I would emigrate in a heartbeat. Well would take a couple, but you get the idea.......And I wouldn't pick France. Not because I don't like France, I love it, it's just that if I was going to go I'd go about as far as you can without starting to come back the other way

C

Oh Christ we’re not gonna be neighbours are we.

Wack61 · Sep 5, 2020

CatmanV2 said:
I would emigrate in a heartbeat. Well would take a couple, but you get the idea.

Except
Parents
Mrs C's idea of fun
European Road trips
English countryside

Pretty much in that order.

And I wouldn't pick France. Not because I don't like France, I love it, it's just that if I was going to go I'd go about as far as you can without starting to come back the other way

C

If you're giving it serious consideration don't hang about , I was 50 a few years back , i'm nearly 60 now , that's how it seems anyway .

No kids and I'd be off , possibly on my own , possibly not depending on which way the wind is blowing on that particular day

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Wanderer · Sep 5, 2020

Wack61 said:
If you're giving it serious consideration don't hang about , I was 50 a few years back , i'm nearly 60 now , that's how it seems anyway .

No kids and I'd be off , possibly on my own , possibly not depending on which way the wind is blowing on that particular day

I'm off to BENELUX half there now COVID messing up a bit. It's just that they're not fussed about the shiite we fuss about like Bojo doing this, needing two massive pointless aircraft carriers etc, I've no idea why I have started to fuss over his. I walk down the street and pop into bar/cafe, no one is stressing of perceptions on sovereignty (except perhaps the Dutch!) it's more relaxed, love it but I do miss UK stuff too! It's hard!

philw696 · Sep 6, 2020

Wattie said:
I’d say that was a positive.
Honestly, I used to think the UK was the be all and end all.....then I moved out. Spells in the Middle East, Cyprus and now Oz over the last 20years have given me experiences and a far more fun and fulfilled outdoor lifestyle than the Uk could ever do.

To anyone thinking about it, I say go for it.

Totally agree mate and you sum it up well for me too.

philw696 · Sep 6, 2020

Wow waking up to some interesting posts on what can be a dreary thread.
I live my life by trying to learn from mistakes made but certainly no regrets he who dares and all that.
For me having been to the other side of the World I'm glad to be back in Europe now.
My kids didn't visit me in NZ just weren't interested but have been here and love it.
Miss some things from the UK but feel I don't fit in there now if that makes sense.

Wattie · Sep 6, 2020

philw696 said:
Wow waking up to some interesting posts on what can be a dreary thread.
I live my life by trying to learn from mistakes made but certainly no regrets he who dares and all that.
For me having been to the other side of the World I'm glad to be back in Europe now.
My kids didn't visit me in NZ just weren't interested but have been here and love it.
Miss some things from the UK but feel I don't fit in there now if that makes sense.

Makes sense to me.

philw696 · Sep 6, 2020

Wattie said:
Makes sense to me.

What happened to your avatar ???? Your wife looks lovely though.

Are you worried yet.

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