Would I lose my shirt on this GT in 9 months time ?

Dave W

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Firstly hello as a noob to the forum

Subject to a job offer in a couple of weeks time I may be looking to spend circa £35k on a new toy for the garage, that will be used on weekends as a GT car vs the XBOW that I have for hooning.

Missed the boat on the low end ferraris , Astons seemed to have creeped up in price too so a bit concerned on a price correction at some point, done the 911 thing, so suddenly the GranTurismo looks tempting for the money.

However I do have a weakness of changing cars every 9 months or so, so want to make sure I minimise the inevitable impact at resale time.

Sooooooo, if we take this car as an example http://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...ti-granturismo-black-stunning-example/3311239 with 44k miles at £34k, if I add 6k miles in 9 months do these cars still sell ok with 50k miles or is there a ceiling that people try to stay below ? From my limited knowledge of the cars, auto is fine, non skyhook would suit me and not worried about perfomance of 4.2 vs 4.7, as hoon car is there for that.

Basically want the looks, the luxury feel inside the car and sports button that makes it sound WoW ;)

BTW assuming Member Wattie is same one who had an Atom, and from the avatar of what looks like his missus.......hello from Atom ownership times

Thanks in advance for all advice / guidance

Dave
 

Ewan

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You wouldn't go too far wrong in 9 months and 6k miles. GT prices haven't changed much in the last year, and it's still rare to see anything at £30k or less, unless it's done at least 80k miles.

You'll find the ride quality to be be step up from the XBow. And it's got a bigger boot than the Atom.
 

Wattie

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Dave, cest moi!
Don't do the 4.2...... Save up for a 4.7 Mc shift....but be prepared to be forever smitten. There is no better sounding car on the planet...the smiles per gallon can't be beat!!!!!!!

Great forum this, lots of help and banter.

Cheers and good luck with the search, Wattie
 

Andyk

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A big welcome Dave....For what you need the car for the GT at that price level sounds perfect. The one you are looking at seems good value and it you add 6k to her and sell her in 9 months to a year you shouldn't loose a great deal. As above prices of early GT's ahve held st 33 to 36k for some time and I see no reason for that to change this year unless it has star ship miles on it.
 

hoyin

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Agree with what everyone has said here. I love the xbow how does it compare to the Atom? Have been thinking about one for sometime now but just can't bring myself to get one due to its limited usability.
 

zagatoes30

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Welcome Xbow & Atom both real hard core - respect.

It's all been said unlikely to lose much on a GT based on your numbers but be prepared to be smitten by the drop dead looks and the noise - 9 mths may get extended :)
 

Lozzingers

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Hi Dave,
I am 4 months ahead of you and loving GT 4.2 ownership - though I did go down the Larini exhaust which is sublime - I just couldn't hear enough of the noise without it! The excitement approaching a tunnel and changing down is just wonderful.
Buy it - enjoy it - do it!
 

Dave W

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Thanks for the warm welcome guys

Yep, remember that thread Wattie, although caught up the last 2 pages

Re XBOW and Atom, have also had the Lotus 2-11 and a couple of caterhams to round it all up :)

Of the 4 cars :-
- Atom feels the rawest due to complete open feel of car
- Lotus has the best brakes by far and rewards the precise driver
- Caterham is the liveliest and easy car to drive on the limits
- XBOW is the best built and most mechanical grip, albeit heavier than the other cars.

Some pics of the cars for those interested

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Anyway I digress. Good to hear that example car I posted would be ok, so at least I know where I stand. 4.7 would be lovely but how much more vs equivalent 4.2 of similar age/ spec ?

Cheers Dave
 

Fat Arnie

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Why are we comparing cars with over 500bhp/ton to a GT ot GTS, neither of which make half that figure.

A couple of years ago I drove my 3200GT back from Le Mans with a bunch of guys in Caterhams. While I could just stick with a Caterham SLR (190bhp Rover K Series) in a straight line, they could go way faster (+25% min) round any corner. The XBow and Atom are not disimilar to a quicker Caterham (unless you have an Atom V8 of course)...

The 3200GT Manual feels a lot faster than any GT.

Forget the 4.2- drives like a Ford Granada - the auto gearbox is awful - kicks down and drama when in sport mode. Absolutely not a drivers car.

I've driven an MC Shift and was disappointed with the acceleration. There is just no low end grunt. I'm going for a QP GTS 4.7 which I might be buying tomorrow - Decided a more sporting saloon is the way forward. I won't be hooning it, I've got my own Caterham for that.

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BigR

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Had a similar 4.2 myself and kept it for 18mths. In line with other comments, I don't think there's much chance of losing your shirt and a fair chance that you wouldn't lose anything on it over the next year or so given your expected usage. You see higher mileage examples out there. As for 4.2 v 4.7, its an ongoing debate! I started with a 4.2 and loved it for what it was - and particularly for the money involved.
 

Contigo

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Interesting Arnie about the torque of a 4.2, I must admit they sound good but are a little disappointing in performance stakes thats for sure but the 3200 with 360lb/ft is quite a powerful motor!
 

Fangio63

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Had a similar 4.2 myself and kept it for 18mths. In line with other comments, I don't think there's much chance of losing your shirt and a fair chance that you wouldn't lose anything on it over the next year or so given your expected usage. You see higher mileage examples out there. As for 4.2 v 4.7, its an ongoing debate! I started with a 4.2 and loved it for what it was - and particularly for the money involved.

Ditto all of that... My experience exactly... and if there's not enough low down torque ... the just kick it down a cog and there's plenty going on..
 

Wattie

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The thing I loved about the Mc was that it wasn't a license loser.

Frankly, after an Atom and Xbow everything (except - few HyperCars) will feel slow.

You can poodle around at 30 with the exhaust rebounding off everything, enjoying downshifts etc and it sounds like you're doing 100+. Totally addictive.

Cheers Wattie
 

safrane

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Back on message.

How much you will lose will depend on how you buy and sell...privately not too much if you buy right and sell right. But if you buy from a dealer you will have to pay their commision and prep costs at both ends...this could be about £10k imo
 

Andyk

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Why are we comparing cars with over 500bhp/ton to a GT ot GTS, neither of which make half that figure.

A couple of years ago I drove my 3200GT back from Le Mans with a bunch of guys in Caterhams. While I could just stick with a Caterham SLR (190bhp Rover K Series) in a straight line, they could go way faster (+25% min) round any corner. The XBow and Atom are not disimilar to a quicker Caterham (unless you have an Atom V8 of course)...

The 3200GT Manual feels a lot faster than any GT.

Forget the 4.2- drives like a Ford Granada - the auto gearbox is awful - kicks down and drama when in sport mode. Absolutely not a drivers car.

I've driven an MC Shift and was disappointed with the acceleration. There is just no low end grunt. I'm going for a QP GTS 4.7 which I might be buying tomorrow - Decided a more sporting saloon is the way forward. I won't be hooning it, I've got my own Caterham for that.

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QP GTS 4.7...Great choice and the car I would have. There are 3 for sale from what I can see.....two black and a blue one.....
 

Dave W

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Back on message.

How much you will lose will depend on how you buy and sell...privately not too much if you buy right and sell right. But if you buy from a dealer you will have to pay their commision and prep costs at both ends...this could be about £10k imo

For sure. Need to keep an eye on private for sale ads to see how they compare to the independent dealers. I assume the likes of pistonheads and auto trader show the most ads for GT's ?

Re speed etc, not too worried about it. Much rather a car with some drama at legal speeds, which this cars seems to have in abundance :)