The future!!!

[keith]

This is the future! I think classic cars will still be insurable, but like everything at a price! There will I think be plenty of enterprising companies that will offer technology modules that can be added to older cars to give the insurance provider, and I have no doubt, the government access and control over your car.
The final step will be to disable your car if they feel your journey isn’t necessary, or could be better completed by walking or public transport!!!
My car already has a scanner watching my face when in semi autonomous mode to make sure I’m paying attention.

 

[philw696]

Doing a lot of work for Toyota this year and 99% of it was Telematics software.
They know everything about you from your Car.

 

[Nayf]

It’s more to do with the proposed switch to road charging.
Smart motorways were the Trojan horse to get the infra built and ready.

 

[MrMickS]

This is the future! I think classic cars will still be insurable, but like everything at a price! There will I think be plenty of enterprising companies that will offer technology modules that can be added to older cars to give the insurance provider, and I have no doubt, the government access and control over your car.
The final step will be to disable your car if they feel your journey isn’t necessary, or could be better completed by walking or public transport!!!
My car already has a scanner watching my face when in semi autonomous mode to make sure I’m paying attention.

Not sure it's as bleak as presented here. Insurance is a risk/cost based business. The larger insurance companies will shy away from older cars because they represent the more risky end of the market. This is already the same with performance cars, I couldn't get quotes from some of the larger companies for the Ferrari even with many years of no claims etc, so what will change?

To get your older car insured you will have to go to a specialist insurer and pay more. How much remains to be seem. It will depend largely on the risk assessment and how much competition we have.

 

[safrane]

You can insure anything if there is profit for the underwriter.

I anticipate older cars will remain, and more likely be cheaper that now as they will be used less and driven by owners who care for them.

As for self driving modern cars, I understand its the car company that will be the insured agent due to who is responsible for 'driving'

 

[Motorsport3]

The last couple of comments are logical and make commercial sense too.

Where I see a risk is for environmental reasons. For example if insurance companies getting targeted by presure groups to stop providing insurance policies which enables the use of ICE vehicle may become a thing. But not too soon.

 

[Zep]

I believe that the fully autonomous car is unlikely to be real for some time in the U.K. because of latency in the comms network preventing near real time off board computing. This will require a significant shift toward edge computing and there are relatively few spades in the ground to build these facilties.

Even then, the manufacturers appetite for risk, given the crowded nature of our roads and the relatively small number of cars which are self driving, is likely to be limited.

 

[sionie1]

Is it Orange???... for those old enough to remember

 

[midlifecrisis]

Doing a lot of work for Toyota this year and 99% of it was Telematics software.
They know everything about you from your Car.

I read that, Fossil fuelled Macans can only be sold in the UK next year as they fail the new more strict EU regulations on cyber security. EV Macans have a higher level software/hardware, presumably shared with VW/Audi.

Porsche Macan to stay in UK as EU sales end | Autocar

EU cybersecurity regulations cut short life of combustion-engined SUV, but it will remain in the UK

www.autocar.co.uk

 

[Phil H]

This is the future! I think classic cars will still be insurable, but like everything at a price! There will I think be plenty of enterprising companies that will offer technology modules that can be added to older cars to give the insurance provider, and I have no doubt, the government access and control over your car.
The final step will be to disable your car if they feel your journey isn’t necessary, or could be better completed by walking or public transport!!!
My car already has a scanner watching my face when in semi autonomous mode to make sure I’m paying attention.

Straight from the Ryanair playbook where it will cost a few quid to insure a car when off the road, but for every circumstance in which you use it there will be increasing charges to the point the where majority of private motorists are priced out; they will of course be able to use the world class public transport we have in the UK......

 

[Oneball]

Is it Orange???... for those old enough to remember

Soylent Green.

 

[Gp79]

We’ll all be dead or in nursing homes if ‘lucky’
Just enjoy what you have…
When I was at school there was the fear of fossil fuels running out - that was 1994

 

[Nibby]

We’ll all be dead or in nursing homes if ‘lucky’
Just enjoy what you have…
When I was at school there was the fear of fossil fuels running out - that was 1994

Who can forget the doom the new millennium was gonna bring with the phasing out of leaded petrol. There was even a machine shop in Wimbledon called The Cylinder Head Shop who was making a killing with the scare tactics of “if you don’t have hardened valve seats put in your old car you won’t be able to use it”

 

[midlifecrisis]

Who can forget the doom the new millennium was gonna bring with the phasing out of leaded petrol. There was even a machine shop in Wimbledon called The Cylinder Head Shop who was making a killing with the scare tactics of “if you don’t have hardened valve seats put in your old car you won’t be able to use it”

Not forgetting the y2k bug...

 

[c4sman]

Like others have said I’m glad I’m in my 50s and realistically when all of this stuff (which may not all be true) kicks in I’ll be too old climb in and out of my motors without a hoist.

 

[happydaze]

Like others have said I’m glad I’m in my 50s and realistically when all of this stuff (which may not all be true) kicks in I’ll be too old climb in and out of my motors without a hoist.

I'm in my 80s.

That makes my even luckier still...

 

[midlifecrisis]

Despite the predictions of Nostradamus, Mystic Meg and Pessimistic YouTubers, ICE cars will still be driven by the common man for many years to come, possibly beyond the end of the century. I'll bequeath my GT to Foxx, my great nephew of 7 months. He can look after it for the second half century...

 

[happydaze]

If I don't wear out my cars (1924 Lancia, 1925 Vauxhall, 1938 Morgan, 1954 VW, and the MCV) before I fall off the perch, my 5 grandkids can fight over them...

 

[philw696]

Yeah never been happier being in my 60's that I will avoid most of this future they are trying to impose on us.
My two kids can have fun sorting all my stuff out here in France too.

 

[mjheathcote]

I believe that the fully autonomous car is unlikely to be real for some time in the U.K. because of latency in the comms network preventing near real time off board computing. This will require a significant shift toward edge computing and there are relatively few spades in the ground to build these facilties.

Even then, the manufacturers appetite for risk, given the crowded nature of our roads and the relatively small number of cars which are self driving, is likely to be limited.

How would an autonomous car cope in the uk.
We have narrow roads with passing places, times when you have to nearly stop and creep past each other, parking on roads when they then become a single width road.
They would blow their microchip brains the first day!