Spyder.....33k miles .......top money......red...has summer arrived early??!!

BennyD

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It looks like the seats have been re-Connolised and are about 3-4 shades too light. To me, that's a glaring error on a top money early car.
 

Andyk

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Hills, a friend bought a 4200 from them and lets say was not a happy bunny.....Quick to sell the car not so quick to sort out the issues.......He would not go back to them....but these are just his experience....
 

Rwc13

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With tongue a little in cheek and also playing devil's advocate, should we not be encouraging any move by dealers towards pricing these cars higher and thereby starting the process of the market putting increased value on them? We are always talking about how these cars are undervalued/underrated compared to equivalent Italian exotica. Plus there is the suggested potential centenary effect that many have been talking about. Perhaps we should be more supportive of this move to push the value of the cars up. Of course, it means we may be disadvantaged in the short term as buyers, and dealers get to make a bit more profit, but hopefully in the long term the value of our existing vehicles benefit.

I experienced this in my years of Lotus Esprit ownership. The cars were viewed as hugely undervalued, particularly the early Giugiaro cars. But the prices of good Giugiaro cars has steadily strengthened to the point where good S1s that could be had for under £10k les than 10 years ago are now fetching north of £30k. Values of good V8 cars have also strengthened. This process was started by specialist dealers who recognised the scarcity and growing appeal of good cars, and then this worked its way into the wider market. There was plenty of scepticism about this at the time amongst the Lotus community.

Just an alternative perspective, particularly since it is not just one car that is being advertised at increased prices, but many "good" cars.
 

marios kriticos

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Guys , if the car is good condition it's not expensive what else can you buy with that money if you wanted a convertible ?
You should be happy that the cars are holding there values .

Marios
 

Andyk

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With tongue a little in cheek and also playing devil's advocate, should we not be encouraging any move by dealers towards pricing these cars higher and thereby starting the process of the market putting increased value on them? We are always talking about how these cars are undervalued/underrated compared to equivalent Italian exotica. Plus there is the suggested potential centenary effect that many have been talking about. Perhaps we should be more supportive of this move to push the value of the cars up. Of course, it means we may be disadvantaged in the short term as buyers, and dealers get to make a bit more profit, but hopefully in the long term the value of our existing vehicles benefit.

I experienced this in my years of Lotus Esprit ownership. The cars were viewed as hugely undervalued, particularly the early Giugiaro cars. But the prices of good Giugiaro cars has steadily strengthened to the point where good S1s that could be had for under £10k les than 10 years ago are now fetching north of £30k. Values of good V8 cars have also strengthened. This process was started by specialist dealers who recognised the scarcity and growing appeal of good cars, and then this worked its way into the wider market. There was plenty of scepticism about this at the time amongst the Lotus community.

Just an alternative perspective, particularly since it is not just one car that is being advertised at increased prices, but many "good" cars.

Noooooooooooooo.......as the the higher the price the longer I will be Maseratiless..... :-(
 

hodroyd

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Those seats are quite a away off the right colour for the rest of the interior trim..!! That at least should bring the price down a few grand..!!
 

allandwf

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should we not be encouraging any move by dealers towards pricing these cars higher and thereby starting the process of the market putting increased value on them? We are always talking about how these cars are undervalued/underrated compared to equivalent Italian exotica. Plus there is the suggested potential centenary effect that many have been talking about.
Absolutely, 3200 AC for sale after the centenary..... £25,000 ;)
 

MAF260

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Those seats are quite a away off the right colour for the rest of the interior trim..!! That at least should bring the price down a few grand..!!

I have a lovely full set here with brand new leather should anyone buy this car. Bargain price, too!
 

BennyD

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IIRC, your seats are from a coupe with the tilt levers. However, good to see you have an eye for a chance!
 

MAF260

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Are they different in a spyder? Yes, full set for a coupe with tilt levers on both sides from memory.
 

BennyD

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The steering is on the wrong side, and what's that funny sticky up thing in the middle?