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Tallman

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That is scary - a French pilot I know who flies in the Central Africa region tells me many horror stories about lack of maintenance and lack of adhering to regulations - add in bad pilots and there’s an accident waiting to happen. Luckily in most of Southern Africa as well as Kenya/Ethiopia thinks are better. I don’t know North Africa well enough to comment.
 

HTAFC4200

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I fly in and out of Africa fairly frequently. It can be very interesting and is often complicated by horrendous weather around the equator.

Fortunately not exposed to questionable maintenance and practices within our operation, but I've heard many a horror story.
 

midlifecrisis

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It's just poor drainage. They need to invest in netted balancing ponds and drainage leading to them. Although the standing water seems to help braking distances.

I'd be more concerned with flying on the 727, that must be over 40 years old.
 

HTAFC4200

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It's just poor drainage. They need to invest in netted balancing ponds and drainage leading to them. Although the standing water seems to help braking distances.

I'd be more concerned with flying on the 727, that must be over 40 years old.
Nah ... they were built properly back then ;)
 

lozcb

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Sketchy, that, South Sudan, how safe is it over there Loz? Still planning my route to drive to Cape Town one day.
Two choices mainly, east of west African routes both doable ..........east african route probably the easiest of the two , except ( Upper Nile South Sudan) is in a state of turmoil at the moment and has been the last 12 months or so ...Ive driven before now from Juba to Khartoum and back in 2017 when it was safer , now not advisable, however its possible with the right connections and maybe $1000 or so to get an escort from one if the higher ranking IO Generals , I could organise that if required , once passed south sudan the rest is relatively easy ...........made even easier if you have e Carnet for the vehicle .

On the west African route , ive driven a couple of times from UK to Senegal , one time following the Paris to Dakar route , again less security issues this route , more logistical and terrain/ state if the roads once you pass Liberia

Let me know nearer the time , I have access to one of the best African network /expat intel groups with pretty much up to date info. Would be your trip of a life time mate without a shadow of doubt ,
 

dickygrace

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Two choices mainly, east of west African routes both doable ..........east african route probably the easiest of the two , except ( Upper Nile South Sudan) is in a state of turmoil at the moment and has been the last 12 months or so ...Ive driven before now from Juba to Khartoum and back in 2017 when it was safer , now not advisable, however its possible with the right connections and maybe $1000 or so to get an escort from one if the higher ranking IO Generals , I could organise that if required , once passed south sudan the rest is relatively easy ...........made even easier if you have e Carnet for the vehicle .

On the west African route , ive driven a couple of times from UK to Senegal , one time following the Paris to Dakar route , again less security issues this route , more logistical and terrain/ state if the roads once you pass Liberia

Let me know nearer the time , I have access to one of the best African network /expat intel groups with pretty much up to date info. Would be your trip of a life time mate without a shadow of doubt ,
Thanks for that Loz much appreciated. I’ve travelled a fair bit through Africa, but Sudan, Liberia, Nigeria are a little scary. Boko Haram and other less than welcoming organisations are the concern. I’d do it in a Hilux or similar as don’t think a 3200 would give the best chance of reaching Cape Town. Have to do it in next few years, can’t delay forever.
 

lozcb

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Thanks for that Loz much appreciated. I’ve travelled a fair bit through Africa, but Sudan, Liberia, Nigeria are a little scary. Boko Haram and other less than welcoming organisations are the concern. I’d do it in a Hilux or similar as don’t think a 3200 would give the best chance of reaching Cape Town. Have to do it in next few years, can’t delay forever.
Northern Nigeria/Cameroon /Niger are where the terrain and rain wise can be particularly wearing lol and that of Boko Haram will test even the best due dil , my vehicle of choice is seventy series landcruiser .........but the trip was done in reverse last year from Cape town to UK by some well known South Africans and a Kenyan sponsored by the New model Defender I believe , had the pleasure of meeting them part way here in Afex River camp in Juba ,

Friend of mine owned this very well known baby below (bograt) quite famous for its many transafrican journeys through even the hardest terrain...............

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But alas South Sudans, Buno crossing near Narus was the killer for it
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lozcb

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You need to write a book Loz..
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Ha ,maybe one day lol,,,,,,,,,,,,, another for pilots out there , picked up this guy a few years back after several crashes i kid you not ....

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Old boy seventy years of age Maurice Kirk the flying vet so he called himself , right character hails from Bristol area i think , google him , turns out his licence had been withdrawn lol , joined a vintage rally Malta to Capetown , crashed 3 times on the way to south sudan , and a further 2 times after that just inside the kenyan border town of Lokichoggio absolute nutter
 
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CatmanV2

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after several crashes i kid you not ....

*All* landings are controlled crashes, and any landing you can walk away from is a good one :)

Definition of a good pilot, anyone?

(With apologies to the fabulous David Gunson)

C
 

Gazcw

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Two choices mainly, east of west African routes both doable ..........east african route probably the easiest of the two , except ( Upper Nile South Sudan) is in a state of turmoil at the moment and has been the last 12 months or so ...Ive driven before now from Juba to Khartoum and back in 2017 when it was safer , now not advisable, however its possible with the right connections and maybe $1000 or so to get an escort from one if the higher ranking IO Generals , I could organise that if required , once passed south sudan the rest is relatively easy ...........made even easier if you have e Carnet for the vehicle .

On the west African route , ive driven a couple of times from UK to Senegal , one time following the Paris to Dakar route , again less security issues this route , more logistical and terrain/ state if the roads once you pass Liberia

Let me know nearer the time , I have access to one of the best African network /expat intel groups with pretty much up to date info. Would be your trip of a life time mate without a shadow of doubt ,
Or last trip of a life time. ;)