Maserati GT/S H&R Spacer Group Buy

[Contigo]

Hi Ladies and Gentlemen.

I have spoken to a few of you about sorting out a spacer group buy and will use this to gauge interest.

I've done some research and have decided that 22mm spacers all round is the best option to fill the arches. The Americans run 25mm but it looks too agresssive imo.

H&R TRAK+ Wheel Spacers feature a 'Perfect Fit' hubcentric design that makes the spacer function as a precise extension of the hub, thereby guaranteeing precision wheel fitment.
H&R TRAK+ Wheel Spacers are constructed from a proprietary aluminum / magnesium alloy created specifically for the H&R wheel spacer program, making them extraordinarily strong and lightweight. Additionally, TRAK+ feature a hard anodized coating for surface durability.

These H&R Spacers are classed as System Type "DRA". This means that you will receive a pair of spacers & a set of fastening bolts. The spacers should be fitted to the wheel hub using the fastening bolts provided and the wheels should then be fitted to the spacers using the existing wheel bolts. No other fixing accessories are required.

Features
Total Track Widening = 44mm
Fit 5 Stud Vehicles
Fit Vehicles with a Stud Pattern = 114.3/5
Centre Bore Size = 67mm
Designed for Vehicles that use Wheel Bolts
Thread Type = M14 x 1.5
Minimum Wheel Offset = Front +22 / Rear +7.5
Spacer System = DRA (see text above for details)

Prices on the internet are around £314 delivered but will try to get a further discount added to this once I gauge the interest.



1. Contigo

 

[CatmanV2]

I'd be vaguely interested, although
1) 22mm is a bit more than I'd want to go
2) £300+ seems quite a lot of money for what, is, essentially 4 bits of machined aluminium. My 4200 spacers were about a third of that and were perfectly fine.

C

 

[Contigo]

FD are £700 plus.

 

[StuartW]

FD's kit are 22mm front and 25mm rear and are priced at $650 for the set but that probably is plus taxes, shipping & duties. Adam Crud has them on his GTS I believe
http://www.formuladynamics.com/products/granturismo_s_wheelspacers/granturismo_s_wheelspacers.php

 

[CatmanV2]

Indeed. Even more far too expensive.

C

 

[Guest 1678]

Phil - I'm in.

I believe Felonius Crud has researched this and gone 18mm and 15mm. I would like to hear his reasoning.

Damo

 

[Scaf]

Hi
I am in !
Sam

 

[Contigo]

Phil - I'm in.

I believe Felonius Crud has researched this and gone 18mm and 15mm. I would like to hear his reasoning.

Damo

Nah needs wider. Noor advised me to go same as his 22mm front and rears. I want it more aggressive looking.

 

[Contigo]

1. Contigo
2. Damo
3. Scaf

 

[Neil183]

Nah needs wider. Noor advised me to go same as his 22mm front and rears. I want it more aggressive looking.

Last weekend I refitted some FD spacers on my MC Shift that I had previously removed because I thought they may be causing some "wafty" handling at speed. With hindsight I think it was actually down to tyre pressures which I now have set at 31 from cold all round which seems to work well on P Zeros.
With the spacers back on (25 rear 18 front) it certainly gives the car a very satisfying nasty kind of stance and I think slightly less body roll.

Thought you may appreciate some feedback?

Cheers.

 

[StuartW]

Once I ditched my P zeros for Contis, the handling was really transformed and I am happy with my set up as it is. I can understand the visual element of wanting to fill the arches which the spacers certainly do but I can live with it personally

 

[Contigo]

It's the only thing which lets the stock car down IMO. It is horribly underwheeled on stock setup.

 

[alfatwo]

It's the only thing which lets the stock car down IMO. It is horribly underwheeled on stock setup.

You have to be careful with wide wheel spacer's on the front Phil...It will defiantly alter the steering geometry for the worse

Ok on the back though

Dave

 

[Felonious Crud]

Phil - I'm in.

I believe Felonius Crud has researched this and gone 18mm and 15mm. I would like to hear his reasoning.

Damo

Correct. Three reasonings:

1. I weren't too pimp then, bruv
2. Stone chips. The wider stance would chuck more stones over the bodywork. Take a look along the length of your car and add 22mm to the relative position of wheel / shiny bodywork. That's 22mm more stones being thrown up. This is more of an issue at the back.
3. I wanted to bolt the wheels through the spacers, rather than bolt the spacers to the hub and then bolt the wheels to the spacers.

http://www.sportsmaserati.com/showthread.php/18091-Spaced-out?highlight=Spaced

I think Mr Beans may have had 22mm all round.

 

[StuartW]

You have to be careful with wide wheel spacer's on the front Phil...It will defiantly alter the steering geometry for the worse

Ok on the back though

Dave

This is my concern, together with possible additional wear to the bearings as it is such a heavy car but maybe I am wrong to be worried here, I'm not an engineer or mechanic, so am happy to be corrected

 

[Contigo]

Correct. Three reasonings:

1. I weren't too pimp then, bruv
2. Stone chips. The wider stance would chuck more stones over the bodywork. Take a look along the length of your car and add 22mm to the relative position of wheel / shiny bodywork. That's 22mm more stones being thrown up. This is more of an issue at the back.
3. I wanted to bolt the wheels through the spacers, rather than bolt the spacers to the hub and then bolt the wheels to the spacers.

http://www.sportsmaserati.com/showthread.php/18091-Spaced-out?highlight=Spaced

I think Mr Beans may have had 22mm all round.

I understand all those concerns but 3 seems a little anal. Surely with the bolts sent it's as safe to bolt the spacer to the hub then use the original Maserati wheel bolts to secure the wheel? I was told that anything over 15mm and you had to use the original bolts anyway.

 

[Scaf]

I still in with 22 at the rear
As for the front, in at 15 but would like to hear from someone who has 22 to be sure they do not alter handling negatively before absolute commitment.

 

[iainw]

I am in potentially. Phil. I did think of it after talking to Adam about it.
I was advised against it by one of the sages on the forum (A well respected Indie Specialist) - for sensible reasons I thought- it would affecting steering , turning circle and tyre wear etc.
Purely for the cosmetic effect I would love it.
What are the thoughts re: engineering mechanical effects?

 

[alfatwo]

I am in potentially. Phil. I did think of it after talking to Adam about it.
I was advised against it by one of the sages on the forum (A well respected Indie Specialist) - for sensible reasons I thought- it would affecting steering , turning circle and tyre wear etc.
Purely for the cosmetic effect I would love it.
What are the thoughts re: engineering mechanical effects?

Basically you design the front suspension/hub assembly so that the vertical centre line is central to the tyre contact patch

If you start effin about with spacers this f*cks everything up!

The best and only way but lots more expensive is with different wheel offsets

Dave

 

[iainw]

Thats what I thought.
So best to go with just rear wheel spacers?