highway code changes

Saigon

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Cyclists should have to pass a test before they are allowed on the road, and not just a proficiency test in the school yard. They should have to purchase insurance before they allowed on the road. They should stay off pavements and have more consideration for pedestrians. Cycle lanes were provided at a significant cost, they should use them. If the lanes are not up to the required standard then the councils should rectify that if there is a genuine safety issue. A lot of cyclists (not all) should have more consideration for other road users. But most importantly, they should be banned from wearing Lycra, except in the privacy of their own homes. Even then, that’s debatable!.
 

Oneball

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But most importantly, they should be banned from wearing Lycra, except in the privacy of their own homes. Even then, that’s debatable!.

I look spectacular in Lycra, I’ve turned many a lady’s head and a few stomachs too!
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rockits

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After catching up on this thread we are all missing the point. The answer is clear.

We all need to buy a Tesla and let the camera's, car and AI tosh sort it all out. Won't be any accidents or issues then at all. Safe as houses
 

philw696

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To be fair when I did my cycling proficiency test at school in 1972 it was on the road and in my teen years before getting a Moped at 16 never got knocked off either.
 

GeoffCapes

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Cyclists should have to pass a test before they are allowed on the road, and not just a proficiency test in the school yard. They should have to purchase insurance before they allowed on the road. They should stay off pavements and have more consideration for pedestrians. Cycle lanes were provided at a significant cost, they should use them. If the lanes are not up to the required standard then the councils should rectify that if there is a genuine safety issue. A lot of cyclists (not all) should have more consideration for other road users. But most importantly, they should be banned from wearing Lycra, except in the privacy of their own homes. Even then, that’s debatable!.

As bicycles were on the road before cars does that mean horse riders also have to take a proficiency test as they were on the road before bicycles.

Originally (I believe) as the motor vehicle came after animal or self propelled vehicles, they were the ones who have to look out for others.
Hence the need for them to have insurance.

Just because a large number of motorists don't like cyclists, doesn't make them automatically right, or indeed have the right of way.

By the way, most cycle lanes (for whatever reason!) are also footpaths, and therefore shared with pedestrians, with small children, and dogs on leads.
In other words very dangerous places for both cyclist and pedestrian. It's safer all round for cyclists to use the road.
 

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As bicycles were on the road before cars does that mean horse riders also have to take a proficiency test as they were on the road before bicycles.

Originally (I believe) as the motor vehicle came after animal or self propelled vehicles, they were the ones who have to look out for others.
Hence the need for them to have insurance.

Just because a large number of motorists don't like cyclists, doesn't make them automatically right, or indeed have the right of way.

By the way, most cycle lanes (for whatever reason!) are also footpaths, and therefore shared with pedestrians, with small children, and dogs on leads.
In other words very dangerous places for both cyclist and pedestrian. It's safer all round for cyclists to use the road.
On those very cycle lanes that are shared with pedestrians, cyclists now have to give way to said pedestrians. I wonder how many will abide by that particular rule.
 

MAF260

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As bicycles were on the road before cars does that mean horse riders also have to take a proficiency test as they were on the road before bicycles.

Originally (I believe) as the motor vehicle came after animal or self propelled vehicles, they were the ones who have to look out for others.
Hence the need for them to have insurance.

Just because a large number of motorists don't like cyclists, doesn't make them automatically right, or indeed have the right of way.

By the way, most cycle lanes (for whatever reason!) are also footpaths, and therefore shared with pedestrians, with small children, and dogs on leads.
In other words very dangerous places for both cyclist and pedestrian. It's safer all round for cyclists to use the road.

The development of transportation and which came first is not the point. For me it's about anyone using the roads being trained/proficient to do so and abiding by the same standards/rules. Anyone sharing the roads - bicycles, mobility scooters, horse-riders, e-scooters, whatever - should be licensed, insured and maybe even all pay some form of VED. Cyclists are typically vilified due to a seemingly large proportion using the roads as they please, ignoring the rules other road users follow and often endangering themselves and others. The sanctimonious attitude of many doesn't help their cause either.
 

GeoffCapes

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On those very cycle lanes that are shared with pedestrians, cyclists now have to give way to said pedestrians. I wonder how many will abide by that particular rule.

Maybe they should allow pedestrians to share the road with vehicles in that case. It would be just as safe.
 

GeoffCapes

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The development of transportation and which came first is not the point. For me it's about anyone using the roads being trained/proficient to do so and abiding by the same standards/rules. Anyone sharing the roads - bicycles, mobility scooters, horse-riders, e-scooters, whatever - should be licensed, insured and maybe even all pay some form of VED. Cyclists are typically vilified due to a seemingly large proportion using the roads as they please, ignoring the rules other road users follow and often endangering themselves and others. The sanctimonious attitude of many doesn't help their cause either.

I agree. There are many ***** that ride bikes and think they own the road.

But there are just as many (if not more) motorists who think the same.
 

Scaf

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Maybe they should allow pedestrians to share the road with vehicles in that case. It would be just as safe.
That’s the very problem with the new rules……
pedestrians do have right of way over motorists and cyclists on the road (well when crossing it anyway).
 
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Felonious Crud

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I agree. There are many * that ride bikes and think they own the road.

But there are just as many (if not more) motorists who think the same.
Is the truth. As ever, there are plentiful wankpots on and in all manner of vehicles. If the Highway Code said nothing more than don't be a dick it would clarify things tremendously.
 

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And posts like that just widen the divide between motorists and cyclists.

You should remember, most cyclists also drive.

The divide between motorists and cyclists is a minimum of 5ft according to the highway code new rules ;)

Im pretty sure i also pointed out on an earlier post that cyclists and drivers may be the same bellends.
 

Oneball

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The divide between motorists and cyclists is a minimum of 5ft according to the highway code new rules ;)

Im pretty sure i also pointed out on an earlier post that cyclists and drivers may be the same bellends.

I used to think people who got too close when overtaking a cyclist were just bellends who didn’t care but then someone here posted that video of people hitting bollards and I realised it was actually far worse than that!! Scared the **** out of me when it clicked.