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They will be no 3200 on the road in ten years
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I hope you are talking in Jest. Is that the same as we don't see a 1992 Ghibli or Merak or Ghibli SS (insert any older MAser in here) on the road? I will hopefully still have my 3200 by then.
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Surprised by that statement Marios. Please explain.
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Must be a spare parts supply issue.
You can always break a car to keep another going to an extent, but if the same part fails and that part is not available you have a problem!
I can remember after just buying my Stag over 30 years, and visiting my local BL dealer for a part, and being told it was obsolete. The car was then at the time only 12 years old. I then discovered that there was loads of specialist part suppliers and nothing was obsolete. The difference here is that they built and sold many, many more thousand Stags than 3200's to make the parts supply a business opportunity.
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One possible explanation Mike, although anything can be re-engineered if needed. Still interested to hear why Marios thinks that though.
Perhaps Marios was merely browsing through the latest tsunami of tweets from one Elon Musk? That would lead us all to believe there may be no manually operated cars on the roads in 10 years.....ergo the 3200?
Given the findings of one Doc Brown.....there will not only be no 3200 on the roads.....there will be no roads.
...except of course for the DeLorean (did someone say obsolete?)....which would have broken down....
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Guys ,
The only reason I said they will not be around in ten years is due to spare parts not been available.
For example you can no longer get Thrust washers for Cranshaft , Chranshaft , bearings , cylinder heads , camshafts , oil pressure switches this is just a small list of mechanical parts , and most of the electrical parts are no longer available.
I would love for the 3200 to be around in 20 years not just 10 , but some times and only because we have problems every day with this issues we need to be realistic over this .
The difference in the older car nad biturbo the technology and electrics are very simple so you could resolve problems .
I hope I am wrong and we still have 3200 for a long time , but if you where in my shop for a week and you experience the difficulties we have getting parts for them maybe you will understand why I said they will not be around .
We have a car in at the moment which I would say most probably is the best 3200 in the uk , my customer called me a couple of weeks ago and he told me that on his way in to me from Derby for an MOT he had a cloud of blue smoke so I asked him to tow the car in , head gaskets had failed but once and we removed the heads we where shocked how badly the heads where coroted and we had to find used heads for the car because New are no longer available .
Marios
I hope I haven't upset anybody because I LOVE Maseratis and I would do anything to keep cars on the road .
So I hope I am wrong and Maserati start a heritage department to reproduce some of this parts , we do keep asking them for this but have no idea if they take any notice from anybody .
The only reason I said they will not be around in ten years is due to spare parts not been available.
For example you can no longer get Thrust washers for Cranshaft , Chranshaft , bearings , cylinder heads , camshafts , oil pressure switches this is just a small list of mechanical parts , and most of the electrical parts are no longer available.
I would love for the 3200 to be around in 20 years not just 10 , but some times and only because we have problems every day with this issues we need to be realistic over this .
The difference in the older car nad biturbo the technology and electrics are very simple so you could resolve problems .
I hope I am wrong and we still have 3200 for a long time , but if you where in my shop for a week and you experience the difficulties we have getting parts for them maybe you will understand why I said they will not be around .
We have a car in at the moment which I would say most probably is the best 3200 in the uk , my customer called me a couple of weeks ago and he told me that on his way in to me from Derby for an MOT he had a cloud of blue smoke so I asked him to tow the car in , head gaskets had failed but once and we removed the heads we where shocked how badly the heads where coroted and we had to find used heads for the car because New are no longer available .
Marios
I hope I haven't upset anybody because I LOVE Maseratis and I would do anything to keep cars on the road .
So I hope I am wrong and Maserati start a heritage department to reproduce some of this parts , we do keep asking them for this but have no idea if they take any notice from anybody .
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Let's be honest Marios, Maserati are never going to create a heritage department - the bankers running the marque care not for the heritage. Anyone out there waiting for that happening is living in a dream. I agree with you that the lack of support for essential parts will lead to quite a significant culling of less cared for cars over the next few years but hope engineering solutions can be found for those of us wanting to keep these cars going. Does make you wonder if they will treat the GT with similar disdain once production stops and the parts bin empties?
I had, like most probably, guessed that is what you meant Marios, so no upset here.
I had, like most probably, guessed that is what you meant Marios, so no upset here.
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I'm sure some owners will think time to sell, while they can, and their car is running okay, in the fear that should anything fail it might become a ornament. It won't do anything for prices either. If you were looking to buy a 3200 and read that, from one of the most respected specialist in the UK, you wouldn't, would you?
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I had five 3200 in the past and one car I would buy back it's a 2002 has only done 18000 miles from new the current Owener all he does with is starts up to warm engine once a week but never drives it .
I also have a new complete engine which I have saved for a rainy day .
I get phone calls every day asking what car to get , I always say if you budget is over £15000 buy a 4200 , over £20000 to £30000 buy a GS
I also have a new complete engine which I have saved for a rainy day .
I get phone calls every day asking what car to get , I always say if you budget is over £15000 buy a 4200 , over £20000 to £30000 buy a GS
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A license must be the sensible thing for everyone, if there is a company willing to commit to what is a fairly limited market. ES make pattern parts such as wishbones and brake discs for a number of different Maseratis so I am assuming they have managed to obtain a license for these? Let's hope there's a resolution some how as it would be a travesty if cars had to be taken off the road simply due to a lack of availability of parts