GranSport LE Questions

[hodroyd]

Matt,
The badges on mine do not have red lines on them, front, or side and yet Maserati confirm it is definitely an LE..??
Cheers
R

 

[conaero]

Matt,
The badges on mine do not have red lines on them, front, or side and yet Maserati confirm it is definitely an LE..??
Cheers
R

They should be red. Detailers do pull them off so they are replaced regularly.

The paint also can flake off, if you look really closely, you might see the remains of it.

 

[hodroyd]

I'll have a good look in daylight, but there does not seem to be any trace on mine..??

 

[dem maser]

I did think they were red

 

[hodroyd]

They may, or may not have been, who really knows for sure..??

 

[mjheathcote]

Depends on what's available at the time, run out of red ones, fit standard ones.
That's certainly my experience when I used to carry out factory inspection tests on process machines made in Italy.

 

[Simonfryan]

Rear badges should be on the C pillars and both these and the one on the front grill should have red lines through them.

Audiotorium and the Electrochromatic rear view mirror are the other dead giveaways.

Now I'm totally confused...

I didn't think mine was an LE, as it had some but not all of the options listed, but the C pillar and front grille badges do have the red lines!

 

[hodroyd]

Join the confused club Simon, this is a take your choice scenario and nobody is wrong, or right I think..!!

 

[DonnyMac]

Just had a quick look on PH, there's only one GS under £30k whoop, whoop!

Should I ask Autoficina to increase the price of mine, definitely undervalued

 

[hodroyd]

They will be £50K before you know it..!!

 

[safrane]

I think its the selling price that counts...not what they are put up for.

Under £30 k cars are selling (Two last week alone) the +30k cars are not. The blue one has been up for sale privately and now with the owners sons garage for almost a year. The yellow one for 3 months now. The black one for about the same time.

Great to see the values but as I say its the selling ones that indicate the market.

 

[CatmanV2]

I think its the selling price that counts...not what they are put up for.

<snip>

Great to see the values but as I say its the selling ones that indicate the market.

Indeed so. What's more, I'm pretty sure we don't *know* what they sold for....

C

 

[dickygrace]

I believe a lot is also about who is selling it and not just the price. I don't think the yellow car is overpriced, it's the dealer / private thing that's putting people off. The blue one's advert isn't the most encouraging even though it's a lovely car. Some are a bit dear that are around 40k miles too.

 

[DonnyMac]

When cars get to a certain age it is condition, condition, condition.

I didn't drive mine for about 6 weeks while it was up for sale, got in and took it for a spin to get its juices flowing before someone popped round to see her, the car felt stiff, creaky, a lot like me when I get woken up too early.

After an hour of driving some of my favorite local roads the car started to respond better, become more 'supple'.

IMO any performance car needs to be driven and regularly to be kept optimised - a 40k car has averaged what, 6-7k miles a year, I'd say that was the minimum to keep a car healthy including servicing on the button.

It cannot be good for these cars to do <3-4k miles a year - all that time sitting, fluids doing nothing, lubrication dripping away, rubbers perishing, fuel going off and moisture build up - give me a driven car any day.

...and... a 30/40/50k car is an honest one, let's not think for a second that some of these low milers haven't had a haircut at some stage in their lives, it happens.

If you want to buy a (great) GS today it's going to cost £30k or more, there's what, less than 10 for sale in the whole of the UK?

 

[dickygrace]

I agree with all you've said there DonnyMac. I'm just talking about what sells, not about what's best. Not sure what you mean about a 'haircut'; is that clocked? If so, I'd be prepared to stick my neck out and say the sub 20000 mile cars on the market today, all of which I know a good deal about, have not been clocked.

 

[dem maser]

Have not heard it called a "haircut"

That made me laugh, it def goes on the less prestige cars

 

[DonnyMac]

It's certainly prevalent in the lease market with cars getting an annual haircut just before service time.

These cars and their red cousins are mileage sensitive when it comes to pricing, 10k can be several thousand pounds or months waiting when it comes to a sale.

I'm sure there are several 'barbers' about.

 

[hodroyd]

Good to see you back Dicky..!!

Good history is important, any decent owner would confirm no clocking and you would have dealer / Indie confirmation from records..!!

Cheers
R

 

[DonnyMac]

Good to see you back Dicky..!!

Good history is important, any decent owner would confirm no clocking and you would have dealer / Indie confirmation from records..!!

Cheers
R

If a car gets an annual haircut prior to its service the dealer/indie records will look solid - it's only when a dealer buys it and gives it a buzz-cut that the history has to vanish for the last year or two, but then most of the value of the haircut is lost with the missing history - so would become far more obvious.

Every month on PH there will be two or three threads from owners noting that their cars are at dealers with substantially less miles than when they sold them.

Sad.

 

[conaero]

On digital dash systems I believe its easy, but our beloved coupes all have an analog system so to clock them would surely mean to crack open the speedo and jam the numbers back....which you might get away with once but recon it would end up breaking the speedo.

I dont think many would risk it TBH as breaking the clock would be a dead give-away.