DMS remap

[Mr.Cambio]

Noor also has a remap that bolts on to the factory ecu itself.

 

[drewf]

Barry and Drew - very interesting. Forgive my ignorance but this is purely a remap, ie no piggy-back ECU such as the FD DBW module, correct? I'm keen to sharpen responsiveness and squeeze a little more power but not interested in spending £1500 or so to do it. Barry, can I ask what your re-map cost?

Purely remap, to be customised on the day. Talking of which, the day will be Wednesday afternoon in Reading, as apparently there is some free-time on the rolling road I can use I daresay any underemployed DIY shirker could come along if he so chose...

 

[maverick]

Purely remap, to be customised on the day. Talking of which, the day will be Wednesday afternoon in Reading, as apparently there is some free-time on the rolling road I can use I daresay any underemployed DIY shirker could come along if he so chose...

Where abouts in Reading and what time ? Iam in Reading might be able to pop along

 

[drewf]

I'll let you know on Monday, if that's OK. Diaries to be sorted etc...

 

[Felonious Crud]

Purely remap, to be customised on the day. Talking of which, the day will be Wednesday afternoon in Reading, as apparently there is some free-time on the rolling road I can use I daresay any underemployed DIY shirker could come along if he so chose...

Ooh! Ooh! I know someone like that! Let me know the time. I'm on chauffeuring duties in the afternoon and lending moral support to my IT illiterate wife who has on online exam on Thursday morning, so it's dubious I could make it but will see what I can factor in.

 

[drewf]

Top man - will let you know details tomorrow...

 

[Cogsy]

Is there any conclusion on this re-map by DMS? the have quoted me the following on my 2013 GC MC

"For your Grancabrio we will increase the power from 444bhp up to 487bhp with the torque increasing from 376lb.ft to 411lb.ft, performance figures that will significantly surpass an MC Stradale in on the road performance. The cost for this remap is £1200+vat."

Am tempted but only if the difference is noticeable and there was no risk to the car.

Cheers

 

[philw696]

There is certainly mixed feelings.
Certainly did no harm to my old 4200.
Phil.

 

[MAF260]

Is there any conclusion on this re-map by DMS? the have quoted me the following on my 2013 GC MC
"For your Grancabrio we will increase the power from 444bhp up to 487bhp with the torque increasing from 376lb.ft to 411lb.ft, performance figures that will significantly surpass an MC Stradale in on the road performance. The cost for this remap is £1200+vat."

Am tempted but only if the difference is noticeable and there was no risk to the car.

Cheers

I have some reservations about the information they've given you-
Firstly I don't think that +43bhp is realistic from a simple remap. Knowing how much work I had done to my GS to achieve that sort of gain, I just don't think it's there in the Maser engine from a remap alone.
Secondly, a member had his 4.7 GTS remapped to an alleged 505bhp (totally unrealistic) and said he felt absolutely no difference afterwards. He tested the car alongside a standard GTS on the road and there was nothing in it between the performance of the 2 cars.
Finally, does your car not have 460bhp like the Stradale?

I've seen first hand how performance figures can be manipulated on a rolling road, so take these claimed outputs with a massive pinch of salt given the above reasons.

I'd be spending some money on the exhaust to gain a bit more of that glorious noise - even the placebo effect of more noise making the car feel faster will probably be money better spent. These cars don't give out extra power easily, but if you're after more I'd recommend you get in touch with Noor at Torenno Performance (a sponsor on here). He currently owns a Stradale and will give you good advice on what you might achieve. I did most of my mods with Noor's help and was very happy with his advice and service.

 

[Cogsy]

I have some reservations about the information they've given you-
Firstly I don't think that +43bhp is realistic from a simple remap. Knowing how much work I had done to my GS to achieve that sort of gain, I just don't think it's there in the Maser engine from a remap alone.
Secondly, a member had his 4.7 GTS remapped to an alleged 505bhp (totally unrealistic) and said he felt absolutely no difference afterwards. He tested the car alongside a standard GTS on the road and there was nothing in it between the performance of the 2 cars.
Finally, does your car not have 460bhp like the Stradale?

I've seen first hand how performance figures can be manipulated on a rolling road, so take these claimed outputs with a massive pinch of salt given the above reasons.

I'd be spending some money on the exhaust to gain a bit more of that glorious noise - even the placebo effect of more noise making the car feel faster will probably be money better spent. These cars don't give out extra power easily, but if you're after more I'd recommend you get in touch with Noor at Torenno Performance (a sponsor on here). He currently owns a Stradale and will give you good advice on what you might achieve. I did most of my mods with Noor's help and was very happy with his advice and service.

I presume it has the standard 460bhp so not sure where he got his stats from. thanks for the advice.

Cheers

 

[BennyD]

DMS do have a very good name in aftermarket tuning so I don't think they are a bad choice although, not unusually for tuners, their figures can be a bit 'loaded'. IMO, the only meaningful comparison is a 'before and after' with the same settings on the rollers, In my case I got a 23 bhp increase which equates to about 5 percent. However, nowadays I regularly keep up with more exotic machinery like DBSs, both on the straights and round the twisties so there are gains to made. Pay your money and take your chance!

 

[Cogsy]

I have some reservations about the information they've given you-
Firstly I don't think that +43bhp is realistic from a simple remap. Knowing how much work I had done to my GS to achieve that sort of gain, I just don't think it's there in the Maser engine from a remap alone.
Secondly, a member had his 4.7 GTS remapped to an alleged 505bhp (totally unrealistic) and said he felt absolutely no difference afterwards. He tested the car alongside a standard GTS on the road and there was nothing in it between the performance of the 2 cars.
Finally, does your car not have 460bhp like the Stradale?

I've seen first hand how performance figures can be manipulated on a rolling road, so take these claimed outputs with a massive pinch of salt given the above reasons.

I'd be spending some money on the exhaust to gain a bit more of that glorious noise - even the placebo effect of more noise making the car feel faster will probably be money better spent. These cars don't give out extra power easily, but if you're after more I'd recommend you get in touch with Noor at Torenno Performance (a sponsor on here). He currently owns a Stradale and will give you good advice on what you might achieve. I did most of my mods with Noor's help and was very happy with his advice and service.

Just had a look on Torenno website. They list a remap for the GT MC Stradale with the following claims

Torenno Performance ECU remapping for the Maserati GranTurismo MC Stradale (2011-2013)

- Factory BHP 444
- Torenno BHP 470-480

- Factory LB-FT 376
- Torenno LB-FT 390-410

Not that much difference and they quote same factory bhp.

Bit confused. Might give thm a call. Not desperate to do this but if there was a 10% gain in performance for £1400 I'd think seriously.

 

[BennyD]

It isn't worth £1400, trust me, as you will feel very little benefit despite the figures. It will sharpen it up a bit for sure but you won't be blowing the doors off Lambos.

 

[BJL]

Love the way DMS have pepped up my QP which now it has settled down is definately much better to drive;n
Smoother
Crisper
More 'up on its toes'
So............let them play with the cali....
Before it was very quick but now it is very quick with attitude plus;
Smoother, more responsive and much more muscular with the addition of better consumption by 2 -3 miles per gal.

Not trying to blow up their ars5 but they had a Veyron in there at the time and tweecked it from 1050 bhp to 1300 bhp with a bespoke remap.
These guys are good make no mistake and Rob knows his stuff ( in a binary way') but as has been said you pays your money etc

 

[Andyk]

i just always remember Dan having his GT S mapped by DMS and he say no difference or benefit. In fact when he put his DMS tuned car against Matt's stahdard car there was no difference at all. Not sure I woulg spend £1400 on a DMS upgrade. I would talk to Nor at http://www.torenno.com/ ..... He is a sponsor on here and he has a Stradale himself.... A very loud Stradale at that.

 

[conaero]

Indeed Dan was very disappointed when we finished the test.

Despite some folk law to the contrary, the 4.2/4.7 V8 is very highly tuned straight out the box.

If you want genuine increase, Rotex supercharger is the only way to go but it will cost you.

Save you money.

 

[Andyk]

Don't Novitec do a Supercharged Stradale....

 

[drewf]

Agree with all the above - there's not much more than 5% to be gained without spending serious money. Happy with my remap though, similar to Barrie - better to drive than standard, and measurable improvements on the road. Not £1400 though!

 

[bigbob]

Waste of cash.

As for bhp, the Stradale came with 450PS originally then went up to 460PS after a while so 444bhp then 454bhp. Personally unless you have more than a 10% power change then I doubt you will notice it and you won't get that on a normally aspirated car.

FWIW a lot of tuners front end load the throttle to make the car feel faster but it's just done to deceive you.

 

[drewf]

Agreed, but if you compare the Maserati map to the Ferrari map for essentially the same engine, there are fueling differences between them. The power gap between the engines can be closed somewhat by implementing the more aggressive fuel map, but it won't give you a 10% increase.