I know I amclearly I'm a little mad
Let me qualify that for you, most 'desirable' cars are built to order. Have you seen an aerial view of Bruntingthorpe recently?Most cars are built to order now, so there’s far less stock than would have been the case in recessions of times gone by. And with parts shortages, there are still back logs. At Land Rover, for example, the order book is over 100,000 cars (hence the long lead times).
Good point. Companies such as Land Rover, Audi, Volvo, and the like all build to order. As do all the smaller manufacturers such as Lotus, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. But I can imagine that the Fords of this World still plough ahead with mass production. (Which is not to say that a Ford, or similar, is not desirable, before I get shouted at!!!)Let me qualify that for you, most 'desirable' cars are built to order. Have you seen an aerial view of Bruntingthorpe recently?
Some of the excuses I've seen for selling their Maserati are quite laughable too.
Could be people cancelling orders too (maybe because of recent insane insurance cost increases)Good point. Companies such as Land Rover, Audi, Volvo, and the like all build to order. As do all the smaller manufacturers such as Lotus, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. But I can imagine that the Fords of this World still plough ahead with mass production. (Which is not to say that a Ford, or similar, is not desirable, before I get shouted at!!!)
On this topic, I ordered a new Audi about 9 week ago. At that time they were quoting a lead time of towards 4 months. But I've just been told that the car has now been built, so should be ready for delivery shortly. So either they moved my car up the queue (highly unlikely!) or the queue is not as long as it was (far more likely).
Friend has just taken delivery of a brand new RR Sport, over 6 months early than advised at time of order.Could be people cancelling orders too (maybe because of recent insane insurance cost increases)
I believe it’s a 3 fold problem. Huge reliability, particularly engine, issues. Supply chain is in a huge backlog so hire car costs for accident damage are huge. They all get nicked so theft is likely and premiums soar.Friend has just taken delivery of a brand new RR Sport, over 6 months early than advised at time of order.
Phoned direct line to swop over the insurance from his previous RR Sport...no sir we don't insure those anymore!
All the usual wouldn't even quote, ended up paying £3k with Sheila's Wheels, an increase of over £2k!
My Neighbour Dave, was telling me the same just yesterday. His daughter's premiums have gone up three-fold. I said, she should get a supermini.They all get nicked so theft is likely and premiums soar.
The hire car cost thing I think is still a big scam. Sure, repairs may take longer if waiting for parts, but I’m sure some are taking advantage.I believe it’s a 3 fold problem. Huge reliability, particularly engine, issues. Supply chain is in a huge backlog so hire car costs for accident damage are huge. They all get nicked so theft is likely and premiums soar.
This totally.The hire car cost thing I think is still a big scam. Sure, repairs may take longer if waiting for parts, but I’m sure some are taking advantage.
Guy at work had minor rear end nudge on his A5 tdi, bumper and exhaust damage as below. They strung out repair for 2 months, saying they were waiting for an exhaust back box, during which time he was given a Audi TTS convertible……. I’m guessing the ‘hire’ cost was probably 2-250/day? So about £15k, plus repair costs, which I think he said they charged 5 or 6k……
Car is worth about £10k max….
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That's normal at least x2 if not more for a good LHD example.Just looking on Autoscout24 and Gransports seem to be nearly double what they are in the UK. Seems a bigger difference than I would have expected.
I think they have a greater appreciation of cars in Europe, at least of some of Italy's finest products! I know that people wanted to take pictures of my 3200 and talk to me about it when I drove it across France this summer, which surprised me. Here in the UK it mostly gets ignored and is a bit anonymous because most people don't know what it is!That's normal at least x2 if not more for a good LHD example.
I'm looking on there regularly it's the same for most cars it seems when comparing to UK prices.Just looking on Autoscout24 and Gransports seem to be nearly double what they are in the UK. Seems a bigger difference than I would have expected.