Clutch wear claims from Selling (independent) dealership

[MarkMas]

I thought you were supposed to be buying a ZF QP.....

 

[strictly]

I agree you should know the clutch wear. As this dealer dosent know, then an alternative pre PPI check would be to buy an appropriate code reader and check the clutch wear yourself, and general look over before committing to a PPI.

If you don't end up buying this car, you can use it on the next, and of course you will use it on the car you finally buy

 

[nuvolablue]

I thought you were supposed to be buying a ZF QP.....

I know.... Me too!!!
That’s what happens when you join a forum.... I hadn't even considered the 4200 till I came here.

For now I'm considering both, but the 4200 Coupes at the moment seem to be such better value than (facelifted) QP Vs, especially well looked after ones.

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[midlifecrisis]

I know.... Me too!!!
That’s what happens when you join a forum.... I hadn't even considered the 4200 till I came here.

For now I'm considering both, but the 4200 Coupes at the moment seem to be such better value than (facelifted) QP Vs, especially well looked after ones.

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Wait till you drive a GT...

 

[nuvolablue]

Wait till you drive a GT...

Yes - I'm thinking of how I might do that...........

Slightly off topic, but has anyone hired a car from this outfit ? TrustPilot gives the usual (and indeterminate) result, i.e. lots of glowing reviews, but then the odd bad one that makes you worry it's a scam:

https://www.classicparade.co.uk/supercar-hire/maserati/maserati-granturismo/hire

 

[midlifecrisis]

Yes - I'm thinking of how I might do that...........

Slightly off topic, but has anyone hired a car from this outfit ? TrustPilot gives the usual (and indeterminate) result, i.e. lots of glowing reviews, but then the odd bad one that makes you worry it's a scam:

https://www.classicparade.co.uk/supercar-hire/maserati/maserati-granturismo/hire

I wouldn't bother with that, come to one of our meets and get a feeling for the cars and get a better understanding of the cars and what you want. For £50 you could get insured for a day and take one for a spin.

 

[nuvolablue]

I wouldn't bother with that, come to one of our meets and get a feeling for the cars and get a better understanding of the cars and what you want. For £50 you could get insured for a day and take one for a spin.

Yes - that sounds like a great idea, and thank you for the kind offer.
I am keeping a look out on the meets pages to see if anything comes up that is commuting distance for me.

 

[Bebs]

Yes - that sounds like a great idea, and thank you for the kind offer.
I am keeping a look out on the meets pages to see if anything comes up that is commuting distance for me.

Where are you?

 

[nuvolablue]

Where are you?

I'm based in SE London/Kent borders............. I would have loved to come to the Brooklands meet in May, but stupidly busy at work atm, and working weekends, more than likely till the end of May

 

[Nibby]

I'm based in SE London/Kent borders............. I would have loved to come to the Brooklands meet in May, but stupidly busy at work atm, and working weekends, more than likely till the end of May

I think there’s an Italian car day at Brands Hatch in August.

 

[bigbob]

I know.... Me too!!!
That’s what happens when you join a forum.... I hadn't even considered the 4200 till I came here.

For now I'm considering both, but the 4200 Coupes at the moment seem to be such better value than (facelifted) QP Vs, especially well looked after ones.

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Having owned various Maseratis over the last 25 years I think you need to drive and compare. The QP/GT are light years ahead of a 4200 in most respects. Lots on here will not agree but the cost of clutch replacement will keep pushing 4200 prices down. For value retention net of maintenance you would be better off with an auto GT IMHO.

 

[jebroni]

I’ve previously owned 4200 gt manual which is a great car in its own right but the Quattroporte feels so much more planted to the road & just as quick for such a big heavy car.
In context a mate of mine had a Bentley sport and he admitted although not as luxurious the Quattroporte handled better than his car.

 

[bigbob]

I’ve previously owned 4200 gt manual which is a great car in its own right but the Quattroporte feels so much more planted to the road & just as quick for such a big heavy car.
In context a mate of mine had a Bentley sport and he admitted although not as luxurious the Quattroporte handled better than his car.

My 4200 was manual too as I never got on with the CC box. I don't think the QP gives much away to the GT on the road if anything really. They tend to be cheaper too.

 

[nuvolablue]

Thanks for the helpful real life comparisons between the various cars. Gives me even more to think about, and further supports the advice that I need to try them out to see what suits me most.

I also have to remember that I'm not buying an Amazon item which I can just return (sic. Re-sell easily) if I don't like it. These cars aren't the quickest to sell on.

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[nuvolablue]

Having owned various Maseratis over the last 25 years I think you need to drive and compare. The QP/GT are light years ahead of a 4200 in most respects. Lots on here will not agree but the cost of clutch replacement will keep pushing 4200 prices down. For value retention net of maintenance you would be better off with an auto GT IMHO.

That's great advice. Thank you.

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[nuvolablue]

@bigbob in your experience, apart from the jump in engine size from 4.2 to 4.7 (and resultant bhp) , would you say there is much difference in the way the pre and post facelifted QP Vs drive?
I'm thinking mainly in terms of the weight, steering feel and general dynamic ability.

Thanks

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[MarkMas]

@bigbob in your experience, apart from the jump in engine size from 4.2 to 4.7 (and resultant bhp) , would you say there is much difference in the way the pre and post facelifted QP Vs drive?
I'm thinking mainly in terms of the weight, steering feel and general dynamic ability.

Thanks

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I don't think (correct me if I am wrong) there was any 'driving' change with the facelift. It was just cosmetic things like dashboard, lights, wing-mirrors and grille/grill.

Driving experience differences are, as you say, 4.2 / 4.7 S / 4.7 GT S. Plus DS / ZF and Skyhook.

 

[nuvolablue]

I don't think (correct me if I am wrong) there was any 'driving' change with the facelift. It was just cosmetic things like dashboard, lights, wing-mirrors and grille/grill.

Driving experience differences are, as you say, 4.2 / 4.7 S / 4.7 GT S. Plus DS / ZF and Skyhook.

Thanks Mark. And is Skyhook generally considered a good or bad option to have....I'm assuming good in terms of driving experience but bad on the wallet if it goes wrong?

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[midlifecrisis]

I don't think (correct me if I am wrong) there was any 'driving' change with the facelift. It was just cosmetic things like dashboard, lights, wing-mirrors and grille/grill.

Driving experience differences are, as you say, 4.2 / 4.7 S / 4.7 GT S. Plus DS / ZF and Skyhook.

Not really but a raise in BHP, and possibly the delivery of such through the rev range but minimal.

 

[Zep]

For me the difference between a 4.2 and a 4.7 is the torque, you don’t have to work it so hard to make progress. It makes a big difference.