Black screen of death..!

[TimR]

A slightly dramatic title but never the less, I am being presented with a complete lack of life from the NIT screen upon start up each morning...
I can see the display unit is backlit at the small round knobs bottom l&r, and the LCD screen has power. Run a fingernail across it and the liquid of its namesake is clearly visible.
AC is controllable ( as much as mine really ever does as it's bid) and hazards all work. A separate system right..?
After ten minutes or so, the screen lights up and the welcome splash screen is again displayed...Normal service resumed.
My question is whether this is the NIT, or the screen. Im assuming my second NIT is having a breakdown and needs repair or replacing..? Whats the learned consensus ? I know we've seen a few NIT threads recently. Most seem to fizzle out before any concrete conclusions are met.
I am especially clueless with respect the onboard computer. But I cant see how the screen display it isnt reliant on a signal generated by the NIT itself..?

cheers

 

[CatmanV2]

I would suggest your hard drive is on the way out. Phil Carrol used to offer replacements, but he's not been around much. (Swanning around in his Lambo ) Can be contacted on FB, though

C

 

[TimR]

found him. Thanks….

 

[TimR]

Brief hope. Not a Granturismo Chris…My bad!

 

[safrane]

Is this on a 4200?

I know of a new screen for sale, but suspect its the NIT harddrive

 

[TimR]

Hi Peter..
yes, a 4200. Magnetic marelli.. I replaced it in 2018 I think. It’s on the fritz again already….!
Thanks for the heads up. I should probably get it tested. Last time it was a motherboard failure and irreparable. Costly diag‘ & I had to get another anyway…ho hum..

 

[lozcb]

Its surprising that these units have lasted so long ( and a testament to Italian electrics ) we are in a day an age where mobile phones and laptops televisions are lucky to have a shelf life of 3 years , its not rocket science to see that this will become an ever increasing problem as the years go by with all manufacturers now ploughing as much electronic wizzardry to even the simplest and most basic cars ...........its my feeling we have gone backwards for no real good reason

 

[CatmanV2]

Brief hope. Not a Granturismo Chris…My bad!

Ahh. You're going to struggle then, I fear.

C

 

[TimR]

Maserati made a smart move dropping the system for the Gransport ,
You see the issue resurfacing though. If the makers go their own way regards the smart electronics, the data gathering and reporting to affect functionality, people whine their apps are rubbish and the processors slow etc etc.
So instead, they do Apple or Android, and thenpeople complain Big Brother controls and logs it all in a cloud. Which increasingly be the case. You are your data. It’s your only value in this world.
I feel sorry for the latest EVreveals. All they have to sell the latest & greatest cars is a revolutionary headlight design. Or hey- no glass windows but a glass roof…..yawn!

 

[CatmanV2]

You see the issue resurfacing though. If the makers go their own way regards the smart electronics, the data gathering and reporting to affect functionality, people whine their apps are rubbish and the processors slow etc etc.

Been saying this for donkey's years. Putting transient software in consumer durables was only ever going to end one way.

So instead, they do Apple or Android

And this is going to present some interesting challenges for the second hand market (if such continues to exist). I think it's Dacia have done away with their touch screen, with the logic 'You have one already in your pocket so why another one'
Just installed a Carplay interface.

Makes sense until the version of iOS on your phone won't connect to the now no longer supported version of Carplay in your car.

My Ghibli is 10 years old. I rather doubt there are many 10 year old versions of *Apps* (highlighted before anyone tries to get picky about Java, TCP and so on) that will run on my current phone's OS. Nor do I wish to forego the security fixes that are part and parcel of keeping systems up to date.

As for the data: Whole different kettle of fish. The trade is simple, and has been ever thus: You are offered something that you perceive has a higher value than the thing which you are asked to exchange. And bluntly, for most people most of the time their data is pretty valueless. I don't recall too many people getting upset about the phone book, or the electoral role, but some of the twaddle spouted by auditors. *sigh*

At least it's Friday.

C

 

[TimR]

That does make better sense of the actual issues rather than my botched interpretation…
Definitely an issue though. Nothing green about built in obsolescence (know knowns) until recycling pre-empts manufacturing in some way..Proprietry is the economic road block…
All quite different issues to those pertaining cars. Just cos I see EVs increasingly as a smart phone with wheels and a comfy leather chair, if thats others see as a car, who am I to wonder why. Back to green. Govts failing to regulate the loopholes that sees +2t cars that beast resources with abandon. Tesla 3 Ludicrous is apparently really silly…? Why aren’t insurers worried?Sell sell sell….

 

[Scaf]

Tech in cars drives me mad, my XJ is always telling me to log in and update this and that.

Yesterday I had the windscreen replaced but because of “safety tech” the car and screen have to be recalibrated which has failed and after 3 hrs they gave up. So now the car has fault codes on the dash - the front radar thingy does not work and the bonnet deployment thingy won’t work all because the screen was replaced - I have no idea why.

Car only just over 3 years old, imagine this in 10 years time …….. I worry a broken screen will write the **** thing off.

 

[zagatoes30]

The screen in my Spyders best use was somewhere to attach the suction mount for my phone

 

[CatmanV2]

I have no idea why.

Because the glass is not perfect and the lane assist cameras need to understand what distortion there is.

Not what you *want*, I know, but at least there's a technical reason....

The screen in my Spyders best use was somewhere to attach the suction mount for my phone

Other screen, chap

C

 

[Scaf]

Because the glass is not perfect and the lane assist cameras need to understand what distortion there is.

Not what you *want*, I know, but at least there's a technical reason....

Which will teach them to install a non OEM screen, which my local dealer has just confirmed they have done.
A new screen is on order from Jaguar and the auto windscreen are proving a half decent loan car for when it goes back in.

 

[CatmanV2]

Which will teach them to install a non OEM screen, which my local dealer has just confirmed they have done.
A new screen is on order from Jaguar and the auto windscreen are proving a half decent loan car for when it goes back in.

Yes. Yes it will. Wasn't Autoglass was it? My sister is very clear on this.

What's the loaner?

C

 

[Scaf]

Yes. Yes it will. Wasn't Autoglass was it? My sister is very clear on this.

What's the loaner?

C

It was autowindscreens. Not sure what happened as my insurance company had said it should have been OEM.
Not sure what the loan car will be - but they said it will mid range SUV not some silly VW Up. But I need to make sure it’s not being paid for from my insurance in some round about way.

 

[philw696]

Tech in cars drives me mad, my XJ is always telling me to log in and update this and that.

Yesterday I had the windscreen replaced but because of “safety tech” the car and screen have to be recalibrated which has failed and after 3 hrs they gave up. So now the car has fault codes on the dash - the front radar thingy does not work and the bonnet deployment thingy won’t work all because the screen was replaced - I have no idea why.

Car only just over 3 years old, imagine this in 10 years time …….. I worry a broken screen will write the **** thing off.

Glad I don't have any of that on my 28 year old XJ6 and everything it does have functions as it should

 

[TimR]

It was autowindscreens. Not sure what happened as my insurance company had said it should have been OEM.
Not sure what the loan car will be - but they said it will mid range SUV not some silly VW Up. But I need to make sure it’s not being paid for from my insurance in some round about way.

There goes the whole ‘proprietry‘ thing… I insisted last time too. After being told no OEM glass on venicles over ten years, they just acquiesced(?) Because thin cheap cr4p.

 

[CatmanV2]

There goes the whole ‘proprietry‘ thing… I insisted last time too. After being told no OEM glass on venicles over ten years, they just acquiesced(?) Because thin cheap cr4p.

Not so simple, but needs to be functionally equivalent. Won't be long (where there is enough volume) that non OEM will be functionally equivalent....

C