4200 Spyder Manual Roof Procedure and Adjustment

SpyderNick

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Manual roof procedure

The procedure in the manual is just for closing the top.

A) Turn key to OFF for several seconds to bleed off hyd pressure.
B) Turn key to MAR (full electrical, but before start)
C) Remove cap on bulkhead behind the right-hand seat and use flat head screw driver to unfasten the hyd unit valve in order to relieve the oil pressure in the circuit.
D) Remove the cap on the bulkhead behind the left-hand seat and using screwdriver or allen wrench press until the top covering (panel behind roll bars that covers the convertible top well) until the panel's locks are released - you may have to tap the wrench to release the locks.
E) Lift the top covering manually and keep it open while extracting the top from its well.
F) Remove top from well until the front part is near the windshield frame.
G) Lift the rear part of top (rear window) upwards and lower the top covering until the hooks are resting on their respective locks.
H) While still keeping rear part of convertible top lifted upward press Button 1 to attach the top covering locks.

Button 1 is the forward one
Button 2 is the rear one.

I) Make sure locks are fastened. if not - try pushbutton 1 again. If necessary repeat D and H
J) Rest rear part of convertible top on top of covering.
K) At front of convertible top, open (deploy) the top's hooks by using allen wrench to turn the pin mechanism. (located in center of front headliner)
L) Press top unto windshield frame and use wrench to lock the hooks.
M) Press the rear of convertible top, so hooks on rear top insert into respective slots and press Button 2 to secure.
N) Keep Button 2 pressed until hooks properly fasten.


If the top is still tightly latched at the front, you can just start at step "G":
While holding the back of the top in the air, and the "top cover" resting down on its "hooks", press button 1 until it seats well.
Then lower the back of the top down to mate its "hooks" and press it down while holding button 2 until the top seats well.


Roof closing stop Adjustment
There is also a screw visable on the drivers side down by the side flaps that you can get to when the roof is half open to alter the stopping point of the roof as it arches over to close, many poeple have experienced the roof banging down onto the windscreen top and and damaging the plastic cover. This will stop that happening.
 

lozcb

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Excellent Nick i do believe thats our first Spyder how to Cheers mate


regards loz
 

brialcon

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hi have tried to adjust my roof with the bolts but when i adjust enough to stop it banging down it wont close at the windscreen any thoughts??? anyone
 

SpyderNick

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hi have tried to adjust my roof with the bolts but when i adjust enough to stop it banging down it wont close at the windscreen any thoughts??? anyone

Hi,

Not sure really, First thing i would check is that the fluid level is ok and there is no leak in the system.
After that i guess it is just really fine tuning of the slider to alter thge opening and closing.
 

RRoller123

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I know this is an insanely old thread, but I have almost this exact problem.

My top light is flashing on the dash, 2 flashes, then 3, pause and repeat. NO OTHER warning lights or codes, car is running great and I love it. Have replaced both fuel pumps, the air filter, all coil packs, all plugs, cleaned the MAF sensor, and cleaned the throttle body. Fuel front end is running great, smooth and powerful. Will replace the O2 sensors next.

HOWEVER, the top will no longer respond. It went through a cycle where if the top would go up, the windows would not work. With the top down, the windows would work. Haunted.

When I shut the car off, (with the top up), the windows automatically go down. They will then not respond for about 10 minutes. After driving around for those 10 minutes, the windows suddenly start working fine. So the top is up, windows working, all is well? No, LOL, as soon as I turn the ignition off, the windows go down fully and start another unresponsive cycle as above.

And now, the rear of the convertible top has lifted out of the hold down hooks, and suddenly stopped, while I was trying to open the top, and the system is entirely unresponsive.

Very frustrating, hahahah!

Any thoughts or ideas welcome. I need to repair this once and for all.

What I don't know is:

Location of Top Relay?
Location and Quantity of Top Position Control Limit Switches?
Location of the particular ECU Module that controls the top?

Thanks for any guidance! I really hate to take this to a pro and pay some serious coin to have it repaired, but cn't live with it loike this. Fine, I guess as long as I drive it without threat of rain, windows will work after 10 minutes of driving, but the car has to be garaged when shut off because the windows go all the way down! Haunted

Thanks.

Pete
 

warnich

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I know this is an insanely old thread, but I have almost this exact problem.

My top light is flashing on the dash, 2 flashes, then 3, pause and repeat. NO OTHER warning lights or codes, car is running great and I love it. Have replaced both fuel pumps, the air filter, all coil packs, all plugs, cleaned the MAF sensor, and cleaned the throttle body. Fuel front end is running great, smooth and powerful. Will replace the O2 sensors next.

HOWEVER, the top will no longer respond. It went through a cycle where if the top would go up, the windows would not work. With the top down, the windows would work. Haunted.

When I shut the car off, (with the top up), the windows automatically go down. They will then not respond for about 10 minutes. After driving around for those 10 minutes, the windows suddenly start working fine. So the top is up, windows working, all is well? No, LOL, as soon as I turn the ignition off, the windows go down fully and start another unresponsive cycle as above.

And now, the rear of the convertible top has lifted out of the hold down hooks, and suddenly stopped, while I was trying to open the top, and the system is entirely unresponsive.

Very frustrating, hahahah!

Any thoughts or ideas welcome. I need to repair this once and for all.

What I don't know is:

Location of Top Relay?
Location and Quantity of Top Position Control Limit Switches?
Location of the particular ECU Module that controls the top?

Thanks for any guidance! I really hate to take this to a pro and pay some serious coin to have it repaired, but cn't live with it loike this. Fine, I guess as long as I drive it without threat of rain, windows will work after 10 minutes of driving, but the car has to be garaged when shut off because the windows go all the way down! Haunted

Thanks.

Pete
Hi Pete,

It might be a mechanical problem.
On my Spyder the top was dead – turned out to be a broken bolt holding one of the hydraulic cover actuators.
Attached is a complete overview over the top and its functionality. I hope you can use that.
Good luck
Carsten
 

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Omar

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Hi Pete,

It might be a mechanical problem.
On my Spyder the top was dead – turned out to be a broken bolt holding one of the hydraulic cover actuators.
Attached is a complete overview over the top and its functionality. I hope you can use that.
Good luck
Carsten

Thanks for sharing that document, could be very useful one day!
 

RodTungsten

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I had a similar problem when I propped the roof part open and all off for a couple of hours to service the spiral clamp motors on the solid cover. No response at all to switch after replaced parts.

Solved it by manually fully closing the hood as per manual then all sprang to life as normal.