4.2 vs 4.7 GT

bigbob

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And that was the madness with mine. The owner had had the big 4 year service done including the lambda's etc 2 months before he decided to part-ex, he'd even ordered two new front mats that hadn't even arrived when I bought the car off him! I drove the car straight from his house to my detailer, picked it two days later in showroom condition, with 6 months of the Maser warranty intact to cover niggles!

When it works that well you are fine, if the vendor has extended the warranty for year's 4 and 5 and you buy it in that period then they make great private buys. Indeed he had to get the full 4 year service odne as it would have invalidated his extended warranty not to have done the O2 sensors and fuel cannister. Mind very few people buy/sell £40-60k cars for cash with the finance situation often getting in the way.
 

CHJ22

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Many thanks for all the helpful responses. An interesting read!

So a 4.2 with remap and aftermarket exhaust system would still be noticeably different from a 4.7?
 

sjc

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By the time you paid out for that, and quite possibly invalidated any warranty if it has one, you may as well pay the extra and get a 4.7S.
 

Felonious Crud

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Many thanks for all the helpful responses. An interesting read!

So a 4.2 with remap and aftermarket exhaust system would still be noticeably different from a 4.7?

Yes, quite likely. The remap - if it has the same impact on a 4.2 as the 4.7 - won't make much difference. You'll see a power increase at the top of the rev range but nothing that would translate into a discernible performance improvement.

By the time you paid out for that, and quite possibly invalidated any warranty if it has one, you may as well pay the extra and get a 4.7S.

Yup. Nuvola has a nice 4.7 MC Shift in at the moment with a sticker price of 45k, wriggle room if required. I just checked and it's not n the web site yet so you'd need to phone Nareman and get the details from him.
 

Parisien

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All sorts of claims made, only of substance when truly using the car to its fullest extent from what I can see


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conaero

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Drive both, then decide for yourself.

I think BB hit the nail on the head, we are mainly die hard enthusiasts on here so over course we are going to push you in the more sporty direction.
 

lofty

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To a certain extent it may depend on what your already driving.I test drove a 4.2 at the start of my search and it drove well and sounded good enough but I found the brakes lacking big time, it may have been because I was used to very good brakes on the car I had, so you would have to find that out for yourself.If you currently driving a VW UP then the 4.2 will be more than good enough, if your driving an M5 then you may find it lacking.The £10k difference may seem large but the 4.7 will be worth a good chunk more when you sell, making the difference somewhat smaller in real terms.
 

Conrad

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I'm in the exact same boat as you, I'm looking to buy a GT in the next few months. Initially I started looking at the 4.2 as it seemed better value, albeit slower and quieter. Then I asked myself which car I really wanted and my budget increased. The problem you have is, the 4.7s around the £45k mark tend be slightly higher mileage and for me, rarely the colour combination I want. So now my budget is in the £50k to £60k range, almost double what I originally thought I'd be spending.

For me, the extra power and noise is more important than just the looks so I'll be getting an MC 4.7. Perhaps go and read a few reviews of the GT and then go and read the reviews of the GTS, that's what helped me decide for definite.
 

Felonious Crud

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So now my budget is in the £50k to £60k range, almost double what I originally thought I'd be spending.

That sounds familiar, Conrad. Thank God for man-maths!

Give Nareman a shout over at Nuvola if you fancy a 4.7 auto, though. He has just take a 2009/59, GTS 4.7 Auto with a good spec and 39,000 miles on the clock. Full MD service history and up at £45,990, presumably with wiggle room if it's going to a loving home. Personally I like the noise of the MC and think the 'box itself is terrific fun. :smile:
 

fcz360

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personally i dont care too much about the extra power, its just that exhaust note that gets me, especially with my pending xpipe. Some of us are noise fanatics!

Thats why i bought the 4.7MC

I got the amg for speed - GTS for smiling:)
 

CHJ22

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I'm in the exact same boat as you, I'm looking to buy a GT in the next few months. Initially I started looking at the 4.2 as it seemed better value, albeit slower and quieter. Then I asked myself which car I really wanted and my budget increased. The problem you have is, the 4.7s around the £45k mark tend be slightly higher mileage and for me, rarely the colour combination I want. So now my budget is in the £50k to £60k range, almost double what I originally thought I'd be spending.

For me, the extra power and noise is more important than just the looks so I'll be getting an MC 4.7. Perhaps go and read a few reviews of the GT and then go and read the reviews of the GTS, that's what helped me decide for definite.

I'm kept thinking the same way Conrad but I think I've now decided which way I'm going to go.
I've set my budget at £33,000 for a nice 4.2 (black with cream interior if possible) and I'm going to spend £3400 on tuning. I expect to have the same noise levels as the new 4.7 and a very similar power output.

Thats my way of thinking anyway. Cant wait to get one!!!!
 

Felonious Crud

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personally i dont care too much about the extra power, its just that exhaust note that gets me, especially with my pending xpipe. Some of us are noise fanatics!

Will you have it by Bristol, Frank? We'll be sounding pretty d@mn good!
 

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I watched 5th gear with the new GranCabrio on and they did a test where they simulated a rolling start from the Peage of a toll road. The other car was a E90 M3 and what really surprised me was that the M3 won the race! Now I know M3s are quick motors but they should not be in the same league as a new Maserati!

The others cars in the tests were a SLS MERc AMG and the new DCT R8 V10 cabriolet. These both annihilated the m3. I mean lilt 10 car lengths. Now I reckon my 3200 would have done the M3 and that is 15 years old. I just wish that Maserati would give the cars the performance to match the looks!
 

sjc

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I'm kept thinking the same way Conrad but I think I've now decided which way I'm going to go.
I've set my budget at £33,000 for a nice 4.2 (black with cream interior if possible) and I'm going to spend £3400 on tuning. I expect to have the same noise levels as the new 4.7 and a very similar power output.

Thats my way of thinking anyway. Cant wait to get one!!!!
CHJ.
If your hoping to effectively get a 4.7 on the cheap that way,I think you'll be dissapointed,as well as adding an immediate 3 grand depreciation hit on your car. A 4.7S ( especially in MC-shift guise) is more than the sum of it's parts over a 4.2.That's not dissing anyones car choice,they're just different animals.
 

drellis

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A new m3 would leave any maserati, apart from maybe on an autobahn. Then again for pace just get a nissan gtr, my god I went on my friends and launch control is unbeliveable
 

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They are not that quick though the M3. My M5 is way faster but as I said a 100k supercar should maul a 50k saloon car... A GTR is a different story just because they are nuts!
 

sjc

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I watched 5th gear with the new GranCabrio on and they did a test where they simulated a rolling start from the Peage of a toll road. The other car was a E90 M3 and what really surprised me was that the M3 won the race! Now I know M3s are quick motors but they should not be in the same league as a new Maserati!

The others cars in the tests were a SLS MERc AMG and the new DCT R8 V10 cabriolet. These both annihilated the m3. I mean lilt 10 car lengths. Now I reckon my 3200 would have done the M3 and that is 15 years old. I just wish that Maserati would give the cars the performance to match the looks!
I think it was an E92 M3, the latest V8 one.That's a 0-100 mid ten secs car, I don't think a standard 3200 would be seeing which way it went!( no offence at all). And on from that a R8V10 DCT is prob close to 9 seconds to 100mph which again is a decent jump up from the M3.Once you're talking a second difference at those sorts of acceleration levels it's surprising what the gap can be.
 

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Mine does 0-100 in 10 seconds and my M5 in 9 seconds. I knows it was an E9x saloon car but they are not that quick. As said i would still expect a 100k plus Ferrari engined maserati to stomp on mundane saloon car. Even tiff and Plato were disappointed and shocked that the Maser had not been able to fend off such a car.
 

sjc

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Mine does 0-100 in 10 seconds and my M5 in 9 seconds. I knows it was an E9x saloon car but they are not that quick. As said i would still expect a 100k plus Ferrari engined maserati to stomp on mundane saloon car. Even tiff and Plato were disappointed and shocked that the Maser had not been able to fend off such a car.
Blimey,what have you done to your 3200? as standard they're 12ish sec to 100 car at best surely?
Nothing in that program surprised me performance wise, the more modern gearboxes alone would account for some of the gap, let alone horsepower and weight differences.I've always said the GTS/Strad/Cab needs another 100 horsepower to match their bark,but...You don't buy a Maser for straightline speed, especially when you can pay under 70K for a 2013/14 GTR that will crack 3 secs to 60 and do mid 7's to 100 all day long .. or even better the more sensible option of paying 40K for a low mileage 10 plate and sending it to Litchfield who'll give you the car back with 600BHP and the latest launch/box software for a payout of circa 4 grand! But it still woudn'y give you the glow or aural delight that a Mas gives.