3200 statement

[Andyk]

Looks in lovely condition and a good advert but look at this line from teh advert..

'Although the automatic transmission suits the car very well, the much rarer 6 speed manual is particularly rewarding, reflected in the 10% premium that the manual cars now command over the GTA.'

Whats your thoughts as I always thought there was not premium for these cars.......In fact most want Auto...

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3457786.htm

 

[conaero]

I would sort of agree that the manuals are more sort after, but rare, no.

The auto does suit the V8 really well, but I suppose people who want to get into the 3200 and indeed Maserati for the first time dismiss the auto as they feel being a sports car, manual is the only way to go.

And as for the risk of a manual developing end float and sudden collapse of the clutch bearings that the newbies are unaware of.

Had the manual, would go auto next time if the opportunity ever arose.

 

[nigw]

That's my old car, being sold by the subsequent owner. The comment comes from one of the recent magazine reviews I think.

I have to say, although Matt was unlucky with endfloat and clutch bearing collapse, the number of times this has come up on the forums in the past 6 or 7 years is minimal - this would suggest that it's actually extremely rare. My specialists have only ever dealt with one case I think.

 

[dem maser]

dont agree with it....manual is not a premium, if anything its the auto thats more expensive.....

 

[nigw]

I can't say I've seen a clear difference either way. Similarly priced I would say. The manual is definitely rarer (the numbers of each produced for the UK show that) but there are probably more people looking for an auto, which balances out with equal supply/demand for each.

 

[SpyderNick]

My 2000(W) 3200GT was an Auto and it had the End Float issue which resulted in having to put in a new Crank and Bearings at £5500-00 !!!, Under Trident Warranty luckily.

 

[conaero]

I never knew that Nick, so that pretty much dispels the myth that it only affected manuals then.

 

[SpyderNick]

I thought that had heard of other Auto's suffering from it , but thought that it was just rarer in Auto's

 

[nigw]

Yep, possible in autos - just far rarer. presumably not the same root cause either (on manuals it's often attributed to the peculiarities of the clutch mechanism), but I think Nigelo also cites incorrect maintenance and oil type.

 

[conaero]

Nick, I had heard of the odd case reported, but never actually knew anyone on here had had that happen to them.

 

[SpyderNick]

I don't know the cause, Mine happened 3 monts after purchase and it had been serviced from new at HROwen. So I thoght that it was a design flaw, Hence why the Trident warranty replaced the Crank with what Dick lovett said was a revised one.
Not sure if that is true though. As with all main dealers they seem closely related to Hans Christen Anderson

 

[nigw]

I don't know the cause, Mine happened 3 monts after purchase and it had been serviced from new at HROwen. So I thoght that it was a design flaw, Hence why the Trident warranty replaced the Crank with what Dick lovett said was a revised one.
Not sure if that is true though. As with all main dealers they seem closely related to Hans Christen Anderson

I've heard talk of manufacturing flaw and/or materials used in some cars - got to be something like that if they're paying up! If it was design per se I think the problem would be more commonplace...

 

[lozcb]

That's my old car, being sold by the subsequent owner. The comment comes from one of the recent magazine reviews I think.

I have to say, although Matt was unlucky with endfloat and clutch bearing collapse, the number of times this has come up on the forums in the past 6 or 7 years is minimal - this would suggest that it's actually extremely rare. My specialists have only ever dealt with one case I think.

I beg to differ Nige , heard of plenty of cases at Emblem and Grimaldi regarding 3200 clutch probs generally starts with a stiffness and jerky clutch pedal, there was talk that possibly some linkages may have been fitted incorrectly, possibly from new , its very easy i believe for them to be fitted upside down , just what i heard , i know one from Roberto's was fitted incorrectly and i think Matts was aswell


regards loz



regards loz

 

[nigw]

I beg to differ Nige , heard of plenty of cases at Emblem and Grimaldi regarding 3200 clutch probs generally starts with a stiffness and jerky clutch pedal, there was talk that possibly some linkages may have been fitted incorrectly, possibly from new , its very easy i believe for them to be fitted upside down , just what i heard , i know one from Roberto's was fitted incorrectly and i think Matts was aswell

regards loz

regards loz

I don't disagree with there being cases - was just saying that there have been very few cases reported on the forums in the past 6 or 7 years - this is a fact rather than opinion. The opinion bit is the interpretation that this is therefore rare, but I would maintain that in the context of the number of cars about it still is rare....I think a lot of issues probably came up when the cars were younger, which would have been before the forum, or at least only in archived forums! I guess Matt's is probably the best documented, there was a case recently on M-F, and I'm sure there are others that have come up on the forums...but not many.

 

[Andyk]

So is this something had woould hurt an early car more than a 2001 car as surely this would have been put right over time.....

Not seen any evidence that a manual is worth more than an auto or the other way around.

 

[lozcb]

So is this something had woould hurt an early car more than a 2001 car as surely this would have been put right over time.....

Not seen any evidence that a manual is worth more than an auto or the other way around.

I'd agree with that Andy , never noticed any kind of premium one way or another , no disrespect to Johnny but it sounds like sales speak to me



regards loz

 

[NickP]

I thought manuals were rarer and more sought after than AC's? At least that will be my take when it comes to selling..

 

[dickygrace]

I find that auto's sell much quicker and are more sought after. From what I have experienced, manuals are more prone to end float. On the other issue, my 3200 manual had the clutch bearing snap at 6pm on Christmas Eve, had to do without the car for 3 weeks over the break, 5 years ago now.

 

[dem maser]

I thought manuals were rarer and more sought after than AC's? At least that will be my take when it comes to selling..

Make that the heading!!

 

[conaero]

Loz, they did fit my linkage incorrectly, but that was after the engine rebuild. It might have been there from before I suppose.