Wife's Cooling Foot Spa.

[Soenvious]

Whilst out for a jolly jaunt today, with temperatures hitting 32deg, my wife was mightily impressed with the Maserati Option of a Cooling Foot Spa. Accompanied by the dancing front windows...
I guess the aircon was struggling to maintain temperatures in such conditions and the condenser was probably pumping out volumes of water, right into the passenger footwell. I know it's not a new problem and others have been caught out too but on examining the drain tube it wasn't blocked. I modified it slightly to have a permanent opening, cutting some of the side wall away and I'm now in the process of drying out the fuse boxes/relays and carpets.
Will the fuse holders come away from their mounting frames without taking the whole fuse assembly out in one piece?

 

[zagatoes30]

Maserati extras you didn't expect or ever wanted you just love them for it

 

[Oneball]

Might be an idea to get the scuttle trim off and pull the filter so you can clean out in there.

 

[Gazcw]

Whilst out for a jolly jaunt today, with temperatures hitting 32deg, my wife was mightily impressed with the Maserati Option of a Cooling Foot Spa. Accompanied by the dancing front windows...
I guess the aircon was struggling to maintain temperatures in such conditions and the condenser was probably pumping out volumes of water, right into the passenger footwell. I know it's not a new problem and others have been caught out too but on examining the drain tube it wasn't blocked. I modified it slightly to have a permanent opening, cutting some of the side wall away and I'm now in the process of drying out the fuse boxes/relays and carpets.
Will the fuse holders come away from their mounting frames without taking the whole fuse assembly out in one piece?

The lengths you have to go to just to keep her happy!

 

[Soenvious]

When the incident occured the windows, both sides decided to wind right down and stay there for fifteen minutes, acompanied by the dash displaying driver's door open. After that the windows decided to raise and lower at differing degrees independant of each other.
I stopped in a lay-by and removed the carpet and footrest and used tissues to mop-up the excess water before returning home. Since then I've vacuumed all the water out and blown any excess moisture away from the banks of relays and fuses, with an air line but the end result is neither window will raise from its down position.
Should I remove the window control unit and try drying out further, or is it bugr'd?
Any advice greatly received.

 

[Soenvious]

Any advice will be gratefully received too.

 

[safrane]

Let it dry out for a few days and see if it springs back to life.

 

[spkennyuk]

Any advice will be gratefully received too.

Fill a sock or two with either cat litter or dry rice and sit them on top of the affected area. It will pull the moisture out.

Disconnect the battery until its fully dried out.

 

[conaero]

Your heater matrix has gone and water has filled the fuse panel below the passenger mat and is shorting the windows.

Turn the battery off and dry it out, remove all the fuses and relays and spray them with contact cleaner.

Then you have to descide who is taking the dash out to replace the heater matrix, 22-24hrs labour and £100 in parts.

 

[RJ237]

With all the fluid that has collected in the footwell it should be easy to determine whether it's coolant or condensate. The odor/taste and greasy feel of antifreeze is obvious, and no, tasting it by touching wet finger to tongue is not lethal.

 

[Gazcw]

With all the fluid that has collected in the footwell it should be easy to determine whether it's coolant or condensate. The odor/taste and greasy feel of antifreeze is obvious, and no, tasting it by touching wet finger to tongue is not lethal.

Not lethal no but...........

 

[oaros]

Reminds me of my trip last year, wife got foot wash in every right handed curve. Was a semi blocked cabin air filter box in my case. The fusebox got a bit damp and the info center suffered a few blackouts but no noticeable long term effects. When cleaning it up, the carpets did smell of coolant but that must have been from a previous owner as no more foot spa. Have you checked the fan housing (above fuse box) for water?
In this weather it will at least dry out quickly.

 

[safrane]

Le Mans Classic in my case back in 2010... Was on my own so no wet feet complaining... you could hear the fan paddling in the water when going round corners...used a wire coat hanger to clear the blockage, and there was a lot of water.

 

[Soenvious]

I don't think it's the heater matrix, the liquid felt like water and not coolant, plus my coolant level is still correct.
I'm away at present so car will have a few days to dry out.
If nothing improves my next step is to remove window control unit and open it up for a good look-see.
Are there any guides on the forum? Searched but unsuccessful.

 

[Soenvious]

Thanks again for the tips. Filled both of my socks with rice but found it really difficult to walk to the garage..... I'll definitely clean the scuttle area around the filter. Thinking about it, I could here a slight squeak from the fan, whilst driving.

 

[Soenvious]

After a few days of R&R I finally got round to sorting this leakage problem.
After applying the socks stuffed with rice to the effected area, nice call #spkennyuk, I tried both front windows and they go up & down, amazing! But drivers windows stops about 12mm short of fully up, any more ideas?
Also cleaned out the filter under the scuttle panel and found a couple of inches of standing water. Couldn't find a drain hole when looking into the filter housing, so tackled things from inside the car by inserting small diameter rubber tubing as far as it would go, then blowing through the small tubing with compressed air, result. See the water in the attached pic. Also pic of water level on filter...

 

[safrane]

After a few days of R&R I finally got round to sorting this leakage problem.
After applying the socks stuffed with rice to the effected area, nice call #spkennyuk, I tried both front windows and they go up & down, amazing! But drivers windows stops about 12mm short of fully up, any more ideas?
Also cleaned out the filter under the scuttle panel and found a couple of inches of standing water. Couldn't find a drain hole when looking into the filter housing, so tackled things from inside the car by inserting small diameter rubber tubing as far as it would go, then blowing through the small tubing with compressed air, result. See the water in the attached pic. Also pic of water level on filter...View attachment 74077View attachment 74078

Is the last pick from the full service history!

 

[spkennyuk]

After a few days of R&R I finally got round to sorting this leakage problem.
After applying the socks stuffed with rice to the effected area, nice call #spkennyuk, I tried both front windows and they go up & down, amazing! But drivers windows stops about 12mm short of fully up, any more ideas?
Also cleaned out the filter under the scuttle panel and found a couple of inches of standing water. Couldn't find a drain hole when looking into the filter housing, so tackled things from inside the car by inserting small diameter rubber tubing as far as it would go, then blowing through the small tubing with compressed air, result. See the water in the attached pic. Also pic of water level on filter...View attachment 74077View attachment 74078

If the window isnt fully closing. It either thinks the door is open or the window needs to relearn the upper and lower points.

Try the following :

1. Open the car get in close the door and turn the ignition on but dont start the car. Lower the affected window fully. Once ita fully down release the switch then press and hold the down button for a couple of seconds. You should hear a click from the motor.

2. Open the car door with the window down still. Raise the window all the way to the top. It go all the way up and then drop down again by 12mm or so. If it does then close the door again and go to step 3. If it doesnt close the door gently and see if the window is below the top seal or level with it. If it below the top seal close the door fully. If its still at the highest point then lower the window fully and close the door fully.

3. Lower the window fully then press and hold the down button for 2 seconds. Then fully raise the window then press and hold the up button. Repeat the down and hold then up and hold again.

That will hopefully have resynced everything again. If not drop the drivers window by 20 mm and then disconnect the battery again. Leave it for 20 mins and then reconnect the battery. Repeat step 3.

The above should fix it as long as its not a physical fault somewhere.

 

[Soenvious]

My window saga continues:
Passenger window operates as it should but my problem is with the drivers window.
Tried the reset numerous times but I'm having no luck.
Powering the window down is fine and it stops in a good position.
When powering the window up it almost hits the top/closed position, then decides it thinks the door is open and drops about 20mm. This is it's normal position for opening/closing the door. Even holding my finger on the up switch makes no difference.
If I disconnect the 'fully up' microswitch, so that it doesn't know it's reached its topmost position, then I can manually drive the window fully up.
I've tested the inside door release microswitch and that changes state from open to closed, so I assume that it's not the problem. I can't find the connection for the outer door release microswitch to test that, in case it's sticking in the 'open' state, so can't rule that out yet.
The door 'open' switch works the courtesy/puddle lamp properly, and indicates open/closed on the dash panel, so I assume that's Ok.
My biggest fear is that after my water ingress episode, the window control unit is 'fried' on the section that recognizes the door open/closed purely on the drivers side.
Apologies for the long winded explanation but hopefully it will trigger some 'brainstorming' ideas.

 

[Oneball]

Have you tried winding the window all the way down and keeping the button pressed for 10 secs then wind all the way up and keep button pressed for 10 secs