When did Ghibli's dip under 20k

[iainw]

I just cant bring myself to accept that an automatic diesel is a supercar/sporty car/premier marque.....

You don’t have to. Because it isn’t having said that- I agree with Phil it’s great VFM and a good time to buy a car. It just isn’t really a maserati in the true sense of the word

 

[alfatwo]

Trouble is guys, there just too big for everyday use... you'd never be able to park one of those in Rugby town center in a million years!

Dave

 

[Felonious Crud]

Trouble is guys, there just too big for everyday use... you'd never be able to park one of those in Rugby town center in a million years!

Dave

Would you want to?*

[*joke. I’ve never been to Rugby]

 

[Wattie]

That was how I thought until I bought my Jaguar XF 3.0 diesel but love it.
Silent at high speed and sounds good when you wind it up with a consistent 45 MPG what's not to like and the Ghibli would do the same.

I agree with the Jag, lovely car...really enjoyed mine.

 

[Gazcw]

Would you want to?*

[*joke. I’ve never been to Rugby]

Ah you beat me to it and I am 10 miles away. Still better than Northampton though!

 

[zagatoes30]

I see, I hear but I can't get over the blandness, can't see anything that makes me think Maserati other than the badge. To me I just see a modern Japanese saloon, Mazda, Lexus etc everything that a Maserati is not.

 

[rivarama]

How’s the sound of the Diesel engine? That’s the thing Id be most afraid of when buying a diesel Maserati... to be disappointed by the noise, and regretting dishing out another £5k to get a proper sounding car

 

[Mattp]

A diesel QP6 is on the cards for me next year.. I love my QPV, but the fuel consumption for a daily is just a little silly!

I'm hoping for a nice Mk6 at 20k and my Mk5 being worth ~£11k

The V8 is amazing, truely something special, the diesel is a big everyday car, with a nice name... but either car, are just so much for the money!

 

[P R]

The diesel sounds ok ish in normal mode, but in sport mode it sounds great.

And as a daily its brill, I love mine and its just passed the 90k mile mark..

 

[conaero]

Id consider one as a daily. Problem is I like the SUV's as a daily workhorse.

Levante...how far away from £20k?...I have 18 months till my current lease is up...dreaming?

 

[conaero]

...it would appear the answer to that is not yet!

£40k is the number or £30k for one thats had a smack on a Cat S and still needs repairing (£5k?)

 

[ukgroucho]

What's not to like? Its a diesel, one step up from a tractor, two steps up from a horse and cart..horrible stuff....the fuel that fooled the world..

Yeah but diesels were just getting into their stride when VAG messed up by being caught cheating... and YES I know lots of other manufacturers were up to the same thing.
I traded an allroad BiTdi quattro for my Lavante S. That thing had the most lovely engine. 313PS stock (later ones were 320 I think) but easily re-mapped to 390 - 400. Humoungous torque (650nM) so in gear acceleration for overtaking etc. was fantastic. And pretty economical - I only got 36 / 37 MPG average or so but still respectable. Ohh and it sounded great (even if it was artificial) 'cos they used the same ActiveSound exhaust that the Levante diesel uses (from Eberspacher) but gave you a bit more control over when you wanted it to be in sport mode.

Don't get me wrong I am loving my new Levante S (just need another 500 miles before I really start to exercise it) but the "super diesel" engines that have been built in the last 6 or 7 years are admirable because they are sooo drivable in normal to fast road conditions - and economical.
Biggest issue is weight over the nose / understeer... very noticeable in audi quattro, somewhat in the Levante (I was loaned a Levante diesel for a couple of days whilst they prepped my S).

 

[Wanderer]

Yeah but diesels were just getting into their stride when VAG messed up by being caught cheating... and YES I know lots of other manufacturers were up to the same thing.
I traded an allroad BiTdi quattro for my Lavante S. That thing had the most lovely engine. 313PS stock (later ones were 320 I think) but easily re-mapped to 390 - 400. Humoungous torque (650nM) so in gear acceleration for overtaking etc. was fantastic. And pretty economical - I only got 36 / 37 MPG average or so but still respectable. Ohh and it sounded great (even if it was artificial) 'cos they used the same ActiveSound exhaust that the Levante diesel uses (from Eberspacher) but gave you a bit more control over when you wanted it to be in sport mode.

Don't get me wrong I am loving my new Levante S (just need another 500 miles before I really start to exercise it) but the "super diesel" engines that have been built in the last 6 or 7 years are admirable because they are sooo drivable in normal to fast road conditions - and economical.
Biggest issue is weight over the nose / understeer... very noticeable in audi quattro, somewhat in the Levante (I was loaned a Levante diesel for a couple of days whilst they prepped my S).

The Maserati Petrol V6 is a Chrysler engine, I believe, breathed on by some bloke at Ferrari.

But I'm a cynical old get!

 

[ukgroucho]

The Maserati Petrol V6 is a Chrysler engine, I believe, breathed on by some bloke at Ferrari.

But I'm a cynical old get!

My understanding is that it's derived from a Ferrari V8 from the 458? (Sorry I don't know my Ferraris that well - trying to remember some commentary in a review I read for the Levante) Couple of cylinders lopped off (crudely speaking). Still built by Ferrari at Maranello of course.

 

[Mattp]

There is something about the torque of a diesel... my dad is ordering a new Evoque, but can't decide whether to go petrol or oil burner... It's an outright purchase, so long term petrol is better, but even the 300bhp engine doesn't pull like his old 140bhp Audi...

Diesel certainly has it's merits, but I fear it will be taxed and hounded into the ground over the next 10 years...

 

[Chrisb2015]

My understanding is that it's derived from a Ferrari V8 from the 458? (Sorry I don't know my Ferraris that well - trying to remember some commentary in a review I read for the Levante) Couple of cylinders lopped off (crudely speaking). Still built by Ferrari at Maranello of course.

The Diesel engine is sourced from within the group, the petrol is built by Ferrari for Maserati and isn’t directly related to any current Ferrari engine. When it was released, it was suggested it may make a debut in a future Ferrari as they continue to downsize. The engine that is related to the 488 engine with two less cylinders is the one used in the Alfa Giulia QF, which isn’t related. Apparently Alfa didn’t use the Maserati one for packaging reasons. The Maserati 3.0l twin turbo must be very under stressed if has been developed with a future Ferrari in mind, presumably as part of a hybrid powertrain.