What car after QPV?

[RobinL]

Bentley Continental for me but they are bloomin' expensive to maintain

Having been a previous owner I can not disagree. When the service book ran out of space I was offered an extensíon service book @£250 if I remember......
So heavy on a complicated and expensive multi-link front suspension. 40k seems to be about the mileage for pretty much a front end rebuild.
Definitely 'buyer beware!!'

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[Nayf]

I’m sure the figures I saw showed that Maserati sold more Ghibli 3s than Alfa sold cars in total in the same period.

To the OP the only two saloons I think hold up to a Maser are Bentley and Alpina.

Alpina B5S is a mighty machine (E60).
Not as elegant as the Maserati, but the torque will feel like it’ll pull your retinas out of the back of your head if you step out of a QP, even a GTS. But they’re different cars with different purposes...

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

Gentlemen, gentlemen. If you've seen Harry Metcalf's preview of the NEC (virtual) Silverstone Classic Car Auction, just posted to YouTube, the answer is obvious.



The YT vid is here

and the Airstream is at 5m50s.
Job done I think

 

[Wattie]

Bentley Continental for me but they are bloomin' expensive to maintain

No more than a wife.

 

[Chrisb2015]

Hush!

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I picked up my wife’s car from its service earlier this week from a that place specialises in Bentley. The owner was a Bentley master tech before starting his own business so knows his way around them. Three Conti GTs in for work and one in particular caught my eye. It looked to have been modified slightly but reasonably tastefully with some additional carbon etc. I said “what is that having done”? After 5 minutes I managed to interrupt him and to ask how much. The answer......£25k. V8s are better apparently as is the newer W12.

 

[CatmanV2]

Quite a lot of view that the V8 has some significant issues, but as ever it depends on who you ask.

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[Chrisb2015]

Quite a lot of view that the V8 has some significant issues, but as ever it depends on who you ask.

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Interesting, I was told it was fairly solid and reliable. It is certainly used well across the VAG range of cars. What inherent weaknesses have you heard of?

 

[CatmanV2]

Interesting, I was told it was fairly solid and reliable. It is certainly used well across the VAG range of cars. What inherent weaknesses have you heard of?

Well so was the W12 . I'm working through a doc right now, I'll see if I can dig out the details but have been skipping over the V8 sections. Something to do with the direct injection was my initial impression.

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[Twinspark]

Those VAG cars are so tightly packaged in the engine bay even if they are reliable the service costs tend to be higher than a Merc or BMW. In the first gen Panamera you’d have to take off the bumper to change the engine air filter.

I’d much rather get a Mercedes or Jaguar over a VAG equivalent.

 

[CatmanV2]

Those VAG cars are so tightly packaged in the engine bay even if they are reliable

Yes. there's not a whole load of space after the W12 is in

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[Motorsport3]

Last summer I was talking with a BMW mechanic how engineering evolved over the past few years. He was pointing out that a lot of decisions are on the name of pedestrian safety not ease of maintenance and in the latest iteration of engines are actually more time consuming to do things other than oil change.

 

[CatmanV2]

Last summer I was talking with a BMW mechanic how engineering evolved over the past few years. He was pointing out that a lot of decisions are on the name of pedestrian safety not ease of maintenance and in the latest iteration of engines are actually more time consuming to do things other than oil change.

The Jaaaaaaag has airbags under the bonnet......

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[Motorsport3]

The Jaaaaaaag has airbags under the bonnet......

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Yes, a lot of companies are doing that apparently to allow the bonnet closer to the top of the engine.

 

[Ebenezer]

So you hit a pedestrian and the airbag goes off under your bonnet. How does that help the pedestrian? I suppose in some pervese way it makes the bonnet "softer"
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[Oneball]

So you hit a pedestrian and the airbag goes off under your bonnet. How does that help the pedestrian? I suppose in some pervese way it makes the bonnet "softer"
Eb

It lifts the bonnet so the pedestrian doesn’t impact the top of the engine.

 

[GTVGEOFF]

I spoke with these people a few years ago at the NEC and have to say was quite impressed. I would like to try one but at the moment they do not fit in with what I need.
Can't say I have ever seen one for sale secondhand.

 

[GeoffCapes]

No more than a wife.

Still cheaper than an ex-wife!

 

[Motorsport3]

So the order from higher to lower goes:

Ex-wife
Wife
Bentley W
QPV

So if you have a wife you may be able to afford the Bentley, but if you have an ex wife you'd better stick with the QPV?

 

[DrDavid]

If you can stand the potential for warning light lucky dip, how about an Alfa Giulia QF? Or have they now sorted the reliability by lengthening the wiring loom?
As a real left field entry, how about a VW Phaeton? Same engine as in the 12 cylinder Bentleys. Or a Lancia Thema 8.32?
Seriously though, I agree about the build up to a change of car being deliciously obsessive and nerdy, made all the more addictive by instant access to reviews, brochures, configurators and Autotrader on t’internet.

 

[CatmanV2]

Same engine as in the 12 cylinder Bentleys

No turbos

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