What car after QPV?

[Sommi]

I went from QP DS to a W221 S500 merc, the 5.5 L V8 version.
It is a very luxurious place to be with loads of comfort options like heated and cooled seats, massage, radar cruise control, great cinema and sound options, etc.
Very economical as well. Can give 30 mpg on longer runs.
But it is sedate, borderline boring. The family love it.
I just see it as another car. There is no attachment.

I think I can't really replace the QP as a package.

 

[Motorsport3]

The best super saloons to buy in 2020

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[rockits]

Jaguar XJ?

Dean/Rockits had one last year and for bargain money. I was impressed.

Dean has ‘the knack’ of finding shrewd bargains.

Or as Ewan states, you can’t go wrong with a RR

Personally I would go 4.7QP, GTS if you can stretch that far. They are wonderful cars and you will still have a Maserati which is the best but.

Been very happy with the XJL and being the SuperSport with Supercharged 5.0 V8 with over 500 bhp and sports back boxes is interesting enough to me. Not as planted at back end to me as the QP but maybe much of this could be due to having PZeros on which I despise. I suspect a new set of PS4S would transform it and is my plan next year.

I've had it for over 3 years which says a lot to me. I would have bought a QP 4.7 GTS but they are/were twice the price like for like so didn't make sense to me.

Your welcome to have a look and drive at any point if anywhere near Potters Bar any time.

 

[emix]

The VAG V8 has a nasty habbit of blowing its turbines due to a small oil filter that gets clogged at some point in its life, usually 80-140k kms. If this specific preventative maintenance is done, it should be very reliable. VAG says that does not require changing as it is fitted for life, but ironically it shortens the life of the engine. Costs quite a bit to replace periodically as it requires the engine to be removed, in Audis at least.

 

[Ewan]

If you fancy a change from the QPV, but don’t fancy the QPVI, take a step (or two) back and try a QPIV or even a QPIII. That choice would be classic.

 

[Twinspark]

If you fancy a change from the QPV, but don’t fancy the QPVI, take a step (or two) back and try a QPIV or even a QPIII. That choice would be classic.

The QPIV is kind of interesting to me along with the late BiTurbo cars the Ghibli and Shamal. I’ve seen one at a dealer lot but being the V6 model put me off and the fact that its so obscure even by obscure car standards would make it a hassle to own, especially if its being used as a daily dri.

Those are definitely cars where unless you have deep pockets you must know the parts supply chain and have a bit of general knowledge to own them feasibly. I’d put the 3200GT in the same category and also the 4200 depending on your region.

I’d recommend you look at Jags, either an X350 XJR, XFR or X351 XJR. They all have their own pros and cons but much more lively than the German cars and contrary to popular belief quite reliable.

 

[Ewan]

Here’s a pic from when I had a QPV (as the daily), and a QPIV, a Ghibli Cup and a Shamal as weekenders. They all ticked various boxes in their own ways.

 

[maserati_mcstradale]

What car next after the QPV? I think the answer is a QPVI GTS if your looking to replace the QPV with something more newer that is similar.

 

[Twinspark]

Here’s a pic from when I had a QPV (as the daily), and a QPIV, a Ghibli Cup and a Shamal as weekenders. They all ticked various boxes in their own ways.

Love the Shamal, very OTT with its flared arches, black roll bar and armchair front seats, it looks so imposing yet is tiny in person. Definitely a car that will never be repeated again with modern tastes.

Too bad they're getting out of reach.

 

[Ewan]

Circa £50k for a LHD in good condition and with reasonable mileage. So not a crazy prize, and well within the "attainable exotica" bracket.

 

[MarkMas]

EVO comparison from 2010

Aston Martin Rapide v Porsche Panamera Turbo v Maserati Quattroporte GT S v Bentley Flying Spur Speed | Evo

Aston Martin's 470bhp, V12-engined, four-seat Rapide is here. We test it back-to-back with its closest supersaloon rivals from Maserati, Bentley and Porsche on an epic 1200-mile drive

www.evo.co.uk

 

[MarkMas]

And there is always this:

 

[DomTurismo]

M6 gran coupe... Never going to be as passionate about it as you are about a Maserati but a lovely car nonetheless... I had a 640 before my maser and it was a gem

Maserati GranTurismo Sport vs Supercoupe rivals | Evo

Maseratis are all too often overlooked. We find out why they don’t deserve to be, by comparing the new 454bhp GranTurismo Sport against the Mercedes CLS 63 AMG, BMW M6, Aston Martin DB9 and Bentley Continental GT Speed.

www.evo.co.uk

 

[Guy]

M6 gran coupe... Never going to be as passionate about it as you are about a Maserati but a lovely car nonetheless... I had a 640 before my maser and it was a gem

Maserati GranTurismo Sport vs Supercoupe rivals | Evo

Maseratis are all too often overlooked. We find out why they don’t deserve to be, by comparing the new 454bhp GranTurismo Sport against the Mercedes CLS 63 AMG, BMW M6, Aston Martin DB9 and Bentley Continental GT Speed.

www.evo.co.uk

I do like evo and have subscribed since the beginning but I do believe most motoring journalists (Harry Metcalfe a good exception) are not typical drivers. Many will drive far beyond the limits of 99% of us (watch Chris Harris videos of him driving sideways on public roads as a good example). I therefore take many of their opinions with a pinch of salt. I ran a 2016 M6 Gran Coupe for 10k miles at the same time I had the MC Shift. List price (doubt actually paid) was £116k; pretty every option ticked including Individual paint. I bought it from Sytner BMW MD with about 20k miles and less than 3 years old for £41k! The first owner took a huge bath on it. It was soulless and impossible to love. It was outrageously fast pulling as hard at 130 as it did at 70 but did everything in a numb fashion. If ever there was a great advert for the Maserati Granturismo, this was it. The M6 is empirically superior in every possible way but no fun. For detached luxury mile munching I prefer a RR or 7er/S class and save the Maser for fun driving.

 

[MarkMas]

Well, if you are going BMW, and staying in budget, and paying a LOT for an old car in great condition (like that GT S), then maybe:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011236409380

 

[DomTurismo]

I do like evo and have subscribed since the beginning but I do believe most motoring journalists (Harry Metcalfe a good exception) are not typical drivers. Many will drive far beyond the limits of 99% of us (watch Chris Harris videos of him driving sideways on public roads as a good example). I therefore take many of their opinions with a pinch of salt. I ran a 2016 M6 Gran Coupe for 10k miles at the same time I had the MC Shift. List price (doubt actually paid) was £116k; pretty every option ticked including Individual paint. I bought it from Sytner BMW MD with about 20k miles and less than 3 years old for £41k! The first owner took a huge bath on it. It was soulless and impossible to love. It was outrageously fast pulling as hard at 130 as it did at 70 but did everything in a numb fashion. If ever there was a great advert for the Maserati Granturismo, this was it. The M6 is empirically superior in every possible way but no fun. For detached luxury mile munching I prefer a RR or 7er/S class and save the Maser for fun driving.View attachment 82058View attachment 82059

Interesting that you felt that way about the M6 - maybe the car lost something with the extra power and 'sportiness' vs the 640... I had a brand new rental 730L at the same time as the 640 and chose to drive the 6-er every time, so much more involving to drive. Took the 6 on a ski trip to the Spanish Pyrenees and it was sublime... But as you say, not in the same league of fun as the Granturismo - I don't think I'll ever stop grinning at the exhaust note, or stop downshifting just for the fun of it!

 

[Ebenezer]

I've said it before, any replacement has to come from a suitably prestige marque which means Aston, Ferrari, Maserati, Lambo, Bentley, and Porche and Jaaaag at a push. Although there is an argument for the occasional mass market interloper as long as it really looks individually good rather than a derivative of their usual design dna. eg the lovely 6 series above.

Really there is no where to go after the QPV. Cherish it!

Mercs, BMs, Posches are 2 a penny on the roads which just means that they're no so special

Eb

 

[Guy]

Interesting that you felt that way about the M6 - maybe the car lost something with the extra power and 'sportiness' vs the 640... I had a brand new rental 730L at the same time as the 640 and chose to drive the 6-er every time, so much more involving to drive. Took the 6 on a ski trip to the Spanish Pyrenees and it was sublime... But as you say, not in the same league of fun as the Granturismo - I don't think I'll ever stop grinning at the exhaust note, or stop downshifting just for the fun of it!

Good points. I wonder if making a car secure at 200mph (I have no doubt it can get there!) means that it doesn't come alive until very high speeds, much higher than useful on a UK road. Sometimes a smaller engine is better, I have friends who are certain that the Boxster is more fun with 2.5/2.7 because you can use the full rev range without going stupidly quickly. Of course you rented the wrong 7er. Everyone knows they must have a V8 or V12!

 

[empzb]

Good points. I wonder if making a car secure at 200mph (I have no doubt it can get there!) means that it doesn't come alive until very high speeds, much higher than useful on a UK road. Sometimes a smaller engine is better, I have friends who are certain that the Boxster is more fun with 2.5/2.7 because you can use the full rev range without going stupidly quickly. Of course you rented the wrong 7er. Everyone knows they must have a V8 or V12!

Some of the most fun I've had in a car has been in lower powered things, 350z in the wet. S2000. Civic type r. Fiesta st. Literally foot to the floor every time. Part of the fun is knowing it can just be hammered and used without losing license but also breaking down. I could also get a decent sense of what was happening.

I had an e60 6 series msport... Horrific thing. Soulless. Unreliable. Poor handling. Heavy. The new m6s are marvellous statistic wise, but they leave me cold. Like you say, making a car a 200mph monster probably loses the fun factor at normal speeds...but then that's the way with most modern cars that I've driven (granted not a huge amount).